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Son of Sam said:
I can just see some people pointing to Marconi's very poor crowd on the weekend. But a game at 12.30pm on a Saturday in hot weather against an overachieving minor club is not the best way to attract a crowd!
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Was always going to be the case, and again, on the day of wanderers v Sydney fc which is a factor. marconi have gotten multiple bigger crowds in this tournament alone. An average of 1.5k -2k which is a what I was expecting pre tournament, and is in line with the last season of nsl which is what I said should be the aim as a starting point to rebuild from. Thatā€™s probably the case for all the ex nsl clubs barring Hellas who always had better numbers and probably have expectations of better numbers. I also think itā€™s encouraging to see the proportion of that crowd wearing Marconi shirts, Marconi scarves etc

In any case, itā€™s been better than the normal npl, which is a success imo
 
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Monoethnic Social Club said:
I agree with Glenardo... It depends on what the expectation was to begin with.

I was pleasantly surprised by the member federation teams that, despite not having a big lead in to it, where very competitive and both travelled well and put on decent experiences at home... A little disappointed at some of the foundation clubs who, despite having a whole year, seemed like a highs school kid doing their assignment at 2 am the night before its due.

From a South perspective it seems to have rejuvenated the fanbase and brought us, kicking and screaming, into a more professional setup from a player perspective.
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The Sydney based Champaign football podcast yesterday had a show discussing this and reviewing the semis/previewing the final if interested
 
Glenardo said:
The Sydney based Champaign football podcast yesterday had a show discussing this and reviewing the semis/previewing the final if interested
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Ia actually like those guys (although sometimes I cannot understand a farkin word they are saying).. They had Romero on from Preston and that Claudes guy... very Sydney biased, as you would expect, but really decent coverage of the Championhsip and great perspective from player/ex player point of view.
 
Son of Sam said:
I can just see some people pointing to Marconi's very poor crowd on the weekend. But a game at 12.30pm on a Saturday in hot weather against an overachieving minor club is not the best way to attract a crowd!
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It wasn't that hot on Saturday. Remember this is Australia, where it is often hot, not the North Pole, and Sydney does not cool down that much at night when the NPL teams train.

A league teams train in hot weather all the time.
 
1/3 off all total attendees for the entire comp only went to the very first round. That's a massive drop off that needs to be addressed.

Whinging and complaints though jumped 356% which was good and on par for football in this country.
 
tsf said:
1/3 off all total attendees for the entire comp only went to the very first round. That's a massive drop off that needs to be addressed.

Whinging and complaints though jumped 356% which was good and on par for football in this country.
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This is the disturbing part for me, not releasing the attendance figures for all of these games. Transparency is good.

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Monoethnic Social Club said:
Sorry don't know much about rugby union teams, should I have said another one?
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So the implication is that they could have two rugby league/franchise teams sponsoring them?
Son of Sam said:
I can just see some people pointing to Marconi's very poor crowd on the weekend. But a game at 12.30pm on a Saturday in hot weather against an overachieving minor club is not the best way to attract a crowd!
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Thatā€™s very harsh on South Melbourne!
 
This tournament was essentially brought in to appease a couple clubs, which it did.

SUFC and Olympic clearly demonstrated they did not give two hoots about this comp, which was disgraceful, but hopefully this changes for next season. The other clubs all did commendable jobs.

How do we define success of this season, absolutely no idea. The fact there was more football in this country as a result of this tournament is a success in itself.

Attendances - overall, considering what we were looking at round 1, I think the drop of was concerning considering each team only had 3 home games. What would happen with a full home and away season? The people who were making excuses for poor crowds were the same people blasting the aleague crowds with the exact same excuses.

Financially - I have already heard several clubs were really struggling, albeit it would not be a surprise for the non foundation clubs to struggle.

People were complaining about the the kick off times, what about the 8pm kick offs on the cold wet freezing miserable nights in the winter? Souths wet home game already demonstrated what an effect rain has on attendances. So do we have this comp in winter, or align with the Aleague if the aim is to "maximise attendances"?

Would be interesting to hear what SBS thought of season 1.

I think we need to bite the bullet and just go with a full home and away season, even if it is just 8 teams start off with, however if we cannot even find 8 financially viable teams for the time being, then we need to reset and find a alternate solution.

Realistically, only Marconi, Hellas, Preston, Wolves and APIA looked like they were ready and keen for a second division. South Hobart definately has potential but would imagine it would be extremely difficult to attract players down there.
 
biggiemic said:
Realistically, only Marconi, Hellas, Preston, Wolves and APIA looked like they were ready and keen for a second division. South Hobart definately has potential but would imagine it would be extremely difficult to attract players down there.
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I reckon you're right here. Only a handful of clubs could make a fist of it, it would appear.
 
You guys have zero sense of humour. Lighten up! Lifeā€™s too short to be giving out so much hate. And playing the racist card is just comical. Ok, youā€™ve got me, Iā€™m wearing my Klan hat as I type this and I was solely responsible for the end of the NSL and the exclusion of NSL teams from the A-League. Did you even see Stajicā€™s speech? (Probably not because heā€™s in the evil A-League I guess). As football fans in Australia we should be supporting Australian football, not criticizing, attacking, undermining the game and each other.
 
Sutherlandbear said:
It wasn't that hot on Saturday. Remember this is Australia, where it is often hot, not the North Pole, and Sydney does not cool down that much at night when the NPL teams train.

A league teams train in hot weather all the time.
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Sydney max on Saturday from BOM was 31.8. Presumably a couple of degrees hotter out at Marconi Stadium.

The question was about crowd numbers, not player comfort. Sitting in the midday summer sun on a 30+ degree day (even if undercover) is different to watching a game at night.

And just to head you off at the pass, I know people watch cricket in those conditions. But the big crowds are only at the big test matches.
 
Keeper66 said:
Sydney max on Saturday from BOM was 31.8. Presumably a couple of degrees hotter out at Marconi Stadium.

The question was about crowd numbers, not player comfort. Sitting in the midday summer sun on a 30+ degree day (even if undercover) is different to watching a game at night.

And just to head you off at the pass, I know people watch cricket in those conditions. But the big crowds are only at the big test matches.
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I donā€™t think itā€™s as really as much about the temperature as the highly abnormal kick off time and partial clash with wsw v sfc not being favourable for maximising crowd numbers. Midday kick offs arenā€™t a thing, the a league doesnā€™t do them for a reason, the national team donā€™t do them for a reason. You can do it, but youā€™re not maximising your exposure, I donā€™t know why thatā€™s controversial. The afl donā€™t do it, the nrl donā€™t do it. Thereā€™s a reason tv put their premier programs on at ā€œprime timeā€ and the stuff they donā€™t expect to attract large numbers during the ā€œdaytime tvā€ slot. Itā€™s not a controversial concept imo. The climatic* conditions were more relevant to the players and making it a less attractive game to watch
 
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biggiemic said:
Attendances - overall, considering what we were looking at round 1, I think the drop of was concerning considering each team only had 3 home games. What would happen with a full home and away season? The people who were making excuses for poor crowds were the same people blasting the aleague crowds with the exact same excuses
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Play A-League games at 12.30pm & 1pm on Saturdays and you'll see a drop off as well.

For next season, they need better times for matches, but it wont happen as they dont want too many clashes with AL games.
 
Glenardo said:
I donā€™t think itā€™s as really as much about the temperature as the highly abnormal kick off time and partial clash with wsw v sfc not being favourable for maximising crowd numbers. Midday kick offs arenā€™t a thing, the a league doesnā€™t do them for a reason, the national team donā€™t do them for a reason. You can do it, but youā€™re not maximising your exposure, I donā€™t know why thatā€™s controversial. The afl donā€™t do it, the nrl donā€™t do it. Thereā€™s a reason tv put their premier programs on at ā€œprime timeā€ and the stuff they donā€™t expect to attract large numbers during the ā€œdaytime tvā€ slot. Itā€™s not a controversial concept imo. The climactic conditions were more relevant to the players and making it a less attractive game to watch.
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I'm not sure the conditions were that exciting so as to be considered climactic... ;)
 
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