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patjennings said:
There's the problem.

If the clubs can't manage and the whole thing falls flat what happens then. Back to the status quo for the clubs. They won't mind - they gave it a shot.

The FA can't look at it that way - if it is not done properly they will have cruelled the pitch for another couple of decades.
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Maybe thats what CFG wants though, to postpone any chance of pro/rel for another 2-3 decades?
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
Absolutely... but here is the kicker, invest it where?
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We always complain about head office, yet when new people get it in, its the same shit over and over, rinse and repeat.

Honestly believe funding is not the sole reason, but the by far the most significant issue by a coutry mile.

How much does a 10k stadium cost to build this days?
 
biggiemic said:
We always complain about head office, yet when new people get it in, its the same shit over and over, rinse and repeat.

Honestly believe funding is not the sole reason, but the by far the most significant issue by a coutry mile.

How much does a 10k stadium cost to build this days?
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A modular stadium - with site costs etc would approach $45m plus land. Traditional methods - double that.
 
Hellenic_blue&white said:
We have numerous suburban grounds, all they theoretically need are face lifts and seating/grandstands. why cant we utilize those??
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agree but the APL dawners see these grounds are beneath them generally speaking.
They have got spoilt being in half empty large stads - at least they have little ques to get their over priced deep fried crap food and beers starting at $9 to $13.50 @ SFS ooops Allianz.

Many NPL's have sufficient grounds - some needing general updating/more seat cover/lighting and refurnished toilets but overall I'm not there due to the ground whereas others expect 1st class.
 
LFC said:
agree but the APL dawners see these grounds are beneath them generally speaking.
They have got spoilt being in half empty large stads - at least they have little ques to get their over priced deep fried crap food and beers starting at $9 to $13.50 @ SFS ooops Allianz.

Many NPL's have sufficient grounds - some needing general updating/more seat cover/lighting and refurnished toilets but overall I'm not there due to the ground whereas others expect 1st class.
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Majority of these grounds are 30+ years old, they are just too old unfortunately.

Similar to Liechardt with the NRL, its' too old.

Similiar to the old Allianz, was too old, so they demolish and rebuild.

Similiar to Subiaco Oval, was too old, demolished and built new stadium.
 
biggiemic said:
Probably almost cheaper to demoilition and build from scratch rather a few renovations here and there these days.
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Agreed for some grounds it is, for sure!
But it reqlly is dependent on the existing ground! Here in Vic there are so many that need just lights upgrade and or a second stand like Olympic village (they could use basic upgrade on exisitnng stand also) but all else is in place or Coopers St mainly just construction of a second stand or smaller ones behind goals, home of the matildas the same so on and so forth! These cover the corwds and overheads are kept to minimum.

Smart feds wouldve pumped money into strategically based grounds around the metro areas and have funded upgrades from decades ago rather than flock to multi purpose stadiums, but thats more to do with their complexes and pressumed status than about the football itself as we know!
 
biggiemic said:
Majority of these grounds are 30+ years old, they are just too old unfortunately.

Similar to Liechardt with the NRL, its' too old.

Similiar to the old Allianz, was too old, so they demolish and rebuild.

Similiar to Subiaco Oval, was too old, demolished and built new stadium.
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Old doesnt mean not suitable though... unless the goal remains to give them an afl type experience.. we dont want to go that path. We want close engagement with the fans.. lakeside now vs middle park/lakeside it would always be the latter for the best footballing experience even though its pretier more pleasent on the eye now !
 
biggiemic said:
Majority of these grounds are 30+ years old, they are just too old unfortunately.

Similar to Liechardt with the NRL, its' too old.
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biggie look what going on mate :) https://www.innerwest.nsw.gov.au/ab...n-of-leichhardt-oval-upgrade-progressing-well APIA will be sharing with the Tigers and Lambert when needed.
biggiemic said:
Similiar to the old Allianz, was too old, so they demolish and rebuild.
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Allianz as pre SFS was fine tbh imo, it was a politcal game to enhance voters promising more new contracts etcetc, the refurbish became a debacle, 1st contractor screwed up, costed the tax payers heaps then Gov assigned another to re do, was a utter joke, point is it could have been left alone despite its minor shortfalls not to modern day saftey requirements FYI.
biggiemic said:
Similiar to Subiaco Oval, was too old, demolished and built new stadium.
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well got to be got to be.


Agree and we quoted if needing refresh get on with it as long as a league was confirmed moving ahead and all clubs involved meet the criteria needed, no argument there.
 
biggiemic said:
Similiar to Subiaco Oval, was too old, demolished and built new stadium.
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Bit more to it than that. Subi was a suburban ground that should never have been the focus of becoming a large stadium - there was not enough space to increase capacity to what we have now in Burswood, and it was too residential - you had the ridiculous scenario you couldn't have night games for such a long time due to complaints - that's why they played so much AFL at the WACA back in the day.

The upside of that I guess is that the preferred option at the time was Perth Oval which got left alone to become our rectangular stadium.
 
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Hellenic_blue&white said:
Agreed for some grounds it is, for sure!
But it reqlly is dependent on the existing ground! Here in Vic there are so many that need just lights upgrade and or a second stand like Olympic village (they could use basic upgrade on exisitnng stand also) but all else is in place or Coopers St mainly just construction of a second stand or smaller ones behind goals, home of the matildas the same so on and so forth! These cover the corwds and overheads are kept to minimum.

Smart feds wouldve pumped money into strategically based grounds around the metro areas and have funded upgrades from decades ago rather than flock to multi purpose stadiums, but thats more to do with their complexes and pressumed status than about the football itself as we know!
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How Epping is left to rot is criminal.
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
AFL is a league NOT a federation mate.... Their infrastructure is ONLY for the 18 AFL clubs to use... Auskick is a marketing ploy to keep the plebs happy... FA should be helping grassrooots more than the APL side of town.
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Absolutely. The APL fought for independence and got it. FA's only concern should be that a professional base survives - whether that long term is the APL or another incarnation like a fully developed Australian Championship. The FA owes much more to the grassroots.
 
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