Australian Dual Nationals 🇦🇺🏳️
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This for me would be a WAY bigger shock than Triantis!!
His father AND grandfather played for Aus so choosing Peru would be a pretty wild decision! I understand his mum is Peruvian but still.
They won't be at the World Cup and finished one point off bottom of the group.
Not to mention he hasn't played a competitive game since beginning of May.
His father AND grandfather played for Aus so choosing Peru would be a pretty wild decision! I understand his mum is Peruvian but still.
They won't be at the World Cup and finished one point off bottom of the group.
Not to mention he hasn't played a competitive game since beginning of May.
Agree. From his initial going backwards and forwards to who he would play for, to his refusing to play for Oz after saying yes and how proud he was, to this, the bloke seems all over the place.
Hillbilly55
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I wonder where this is coming from, though, as there is the October window before this. Is this a shout out to Poppa to pick him for the October friendlies? It seems very strange this far out that they would be announcing who is and isn't in the squad for games that are 6 or 7 weeks away, given the unknowns in Football.
I remember in one of the earlier pressers that Poppa did he was asked about him and said something like that he has made himself not available for Oz and they are still tracking him but it was up to him making himself available.
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Even if Poppa gives Robertson a callup for the October friendlies he'll still be able to change allegiance because friendlies don't tie a player down to a country so he may end up choosing Peru anyway even if he gets game time for the Socceroos.
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You can see using the FIFA Change of Association platform but not sure if Robertson has to go through the same processes as Triantis did or if it's different for him.
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This will break some hearts in this forum (including mine), after following this bloke since he was 15 when he signed with City!!! This will be a massive kick in the guts for Australian football. I think we can put this one down to Arnie after not playing him in any games after his debut against Equador. He should've been picked to play against the Kiwis & England, in England - after that he deleted everything related to the Australian national team off his socials
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I think the 2 cases are different. As I understand things, Triantis played for Australian under age teams in official competitions ie those organized by FIFA and/or AFC. Therefore, to be eligible to play for Greece he needed to change association to Greece.
Robertson, as far as I am aware, never played under age football for anyone, including Australia. If so, he is free to play for, and be tied to, whichever association that he is eligible for and which selects and plays him in an official competition.
He played for both England and Australia underage
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In "official" competitions?
Good question, not sure
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Neither am I. I will try and research it and see what I can find out.
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Alex Robertson is not considered eligible for the Australian national team due to a combination of him having only played in friendlies for Australia and the ongoing, unspecified paperwork issue that prevents his selection. While his father and grandfather played for the Socceroos, his recent play in friendlies makes him eligible to switch allegiance to another nation, such as his birth country of Scotland, England, or Peru. Socceroos coach Tony Popovic has stated that Robertson is currently ineligible to be selected unless the paperwork issue is resolved and he makes himself available for selection, which is a matter for the player himself to address.
The Paperwork Issue
- FIFA regulations:
A FIFA rule change in 2020 allows players to switch national teams if they have played no more than three competitive matches for their current national team before turning 21.
- Friendly appearances:
Robertson has played in friendly matches for Australia, but not in any competitive senior games, making him eligible to switch his allegiance.
- Unspecified complexity:
While the exact nature of the paperwork issue is not public, it is a significant hurdle that currently makes him unavailable for selection.
- Socceroos' stance:
Australia's manager, Tony Popovic, has indicated the issue is not a matter of selection but of eligibility due to this paperwork.
- Player's choice:
Popovic has stated that Robertson needs to resolve the paperwork and make himself available if he wishes to play for the Socceroos.
- Family heritage:
The situation is mysterious, as both his father and grandfather represented the Socceroos, but the family has chosen not to comment on the issue.
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Thanks for this.
Using both FotMob and Transfermarkt as sources, it would seem that his International career has consisted solely of Friendlies. On that basis, he still has no ties to any of the 4 nations that he is claimed to be eligible to represent.
I don't know anything about the "paperwork issue" that was supposedly holding back his ability to be selected for Australia. Maybe it had something to do with the fact that he played 5 Friendlies at under- age level for England. And that 4 of those Friendlies took place prior to FIFA amending the change of association rules in 2020.
However, because he has only ever played Friendlies at any level, the current rules do not require him to request a Change of Association if he wishes to play for one of the 4 Associations which he is supposedly eligible for.
Conversely, if he plays for Peru in the November Friendlies, he will still retain his right to play for Australia or England or Scotland or Peru until such time as he is finally fielded, at Senior National Team level, in an official competition. Once that happens, if it ever does, he is permanently tied to that nation and he cannot request a change to one of the other Associations.
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The thing is though, until he was shafted and made to feel unwelcome, Australia was his first choice. He made that decision that he wanted to represent the Socceroos even though he knew he qualified for Greece. Ask yourself what happened to change that. He wore the Australia jersey with a lot of pride and spoke about what is meant to him. If not for Popovic's handling of things, he'd be still in the fold.
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Wasn't sure where to post this but he is a dual national I guess.
Sebastian Pasquali.
Goes to one of the best academies in the world, keeps guys like Gravenberch out of the u21s, back in the NSL at 25?
How does this happen? How can he be so highly rated at that age and then vanish? What was it? Technical ability? Mental toughness? Lack of athleticism?
Seriously needs to be studied. Maybe someone on here knows more?
Sebastian Pasquali.
Goes to one of the best academies in the world, keeps guys like Gravenberch out of the u21s, back in the NSL at 25?
How does this happen? How can he be so highly rated at that age and then vanish? What was it? Technical ability? Mental toughness? Lack of athleticism?
Seriously needs to be studied. Maybe someone on here knows more?
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NSL eh???