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Socceroos vs Canada/USA Oct 25

Quicky said:
I don't think it would be a game changer. It would be a short shot of adrenaline. There are systemic issues that need fixing first or at least parralel to. If we try we can't treat it as some miracle cure and ignore the real issues.
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It would be a game changer

Under what I said we would have

1) 2026 Womens Asian Cup
2) 2031 Mens Asian Cup
3) 2032 Olyroos and Matildas
4) 2038 Socceroos

If you could then throw in the 2029 Club World Cup you would have over a decade of short shots of adrenaline :)

I do agree that systemic problems need to be fixed - but in parallel - we can't wait because now is our only shot!!
 
grazorblade said:
Yeah i think we had 4 good chances they had 1 until the 89th minute where they had 3 in a row

Penalty shout in the first few minutes was interesting. The referee let everything go and allowed a lot of physicality so even if it was a pen normally, this ref had a particular style that was pretty permissive

Curious what our refs thought of rhe challenge @Muz @NicCarBel
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Was that the Circati slide?
 
JS96 said:
He's certainly capable but I'm not sure throwing the arm band to him at this stage is right. Besides, Irvine and Ryan will return and have it. Post world cup is a good shout.
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That's a completely different argument? They are just prepping him in friendly games because they know he has what it takes to be a future captain and the coaching staff clearly see those qualities which is why it's not really relevant or important how we view his character because we don't actually listen to him.

Yes, Irvine is coming back soon and will have it so that's why it is right giving him a chance to be captain when Irvine and Ryan aren't playing.
 
Decentric said:
I’ve only watched the live game and haven’t started stats compilation on the replay.

From the match stats compiled on TV Canada had 60 percent possession, and something like 12 shots at goal to Aus’s 5.

I think they said Izzo made 8 saves to Canada’s 0.

The Aus commentators and pundits often say Aus needs to keep the ball better, but they don’t account for Aus sitting off in team Squeezing, whilst the opposition often Squeezes intensively in a Full Press.

I’ll add more in the Socceroo match stats thread.

On another note, why were Canada such a proactively aggressive side? They seemed to initiate a lot of niggle and physical contact, but Aussies were punished equally by the ref for retaliation.

I can’t remember anything like this in Asian WCQers? Yet this was supposedly a friendly.

Do a lot of the Canadian team play for big UEFA clubs? And they expected to win easily?

Live, I thought Italiano struggled. For the Young Socceroos I thought he lacked the technical quality of most of his teammates and thought he had no hope of senior Socceroo football. I’ll probably see some better qualities that are more subtle in the replay.
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It was Italiano's debut so will cut him some slack.He did look a bit overawed and his opponent Laryea was a good player and very niggly.Rowles also struggled on the other side against another good player.

The Canadians were frustrated by our defensive tactics and probably did think they could beat us as they had recently dispatched Wales and Romania.
 
onedaywinners... said:
You don't think hosting a men's World Cup in Aus would be a game changer??

I mean if 06 was a huge moment for Australian football hosting a World Cup will absolutely blow that out of the water without a shadow of a doubt!

Definitely systemic issues at play that no matter what will always need to be addressed but there is no way hosting the biggest event in the world for the biggest sport in the world would be a short shot of adrenaline. The game in this country can't be stopped...it's just a matter of time.
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I think it would be huge while it's happening then we'd be back where we were once the memory has faded.

I think there's a real risk that an event that huge would take resources from the governing body away from the systemic fixes needed to see lasting change in the game.

Perhaps I'm being too cynical, and the money would provide an opportunity to make those systemic changes, and the excitement would drag the game into the mainstream. But I'm skeptical.
 
patjennings said:
It would be a game changer

Under what I said we would have

1) 2026 Womens Asian Cup
2) 2031 Mens Asian Cup
3) 2032 Olyroos and Matildas
4) 2038 Socceroos

If you could then throw in the 2029 Club World Cup you would have over a decade of short shots of adrenaline :)

I do agree that systemic problems need to be fixed - but in parallel - we can't wait because now is our only shot!!
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I like the idea of a series of tournaments building up to the World Cup. But still fear we would be unable to deliver on all of that while addressing the grass root and systemic issues in the game. It'd take some really high quality management. Dare to dream.
 
Quicky said:
I think it would be huge while it's happening then we'd be back where we were once the memory has faded.

I think there's a real risk that an event that huge would take resources from the governing body away from the systemic fixes needed to see lasting change in the game.

Perhaps I'm being too cynical, and the money would provide an opportunity to make those systemic changes, and the excitement would drag the game into the mainstream. But I'm skeptical.
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Disagree. I think the ten year build up to a world cup would be a massive shot in the arm for the game in Oz. Probably permanent in effect.

It's the greatest fear of the NRL and AFL.
 
Mr Cleansheets said:
Disagree. I think the ten year build up to a world cup would be a massive shot in the arm for the game in Oz. Probably permanent in effect.

It's the greatest fear of the NRL and AFL.
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making the world cup and hosting the womens world cup appears to have had a permanent boost

hosting the asian cup didn't surprisingly
 
Jetsfan said:
Doesn't that usually mean that the defence was crap:cool:
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One would think so, but in a lot of the Popa games, the other team gets plenty of snapshots, but there are often Socceroo defenders in between them and the goal when they shoot.

Whereas we appear to get less chances, but they are often with less opposition defenders in between the goal and the Aus shooter, or none at all.

Popa's priority is keeping the 4 in the midfield line and the 3 in the defensive line, in the 3-4-3 - or the 2 (5-2-3) to 4 in the midfield line, and the 5 at the back in the 5-4-1, compact at all times in Ball Possession Opposition.

Aus rarely has to turn around and chase running towards their own defensive goal.

I'm fed up of watching Aus play less time with the ball, but love Popa's results!

I'm at the 12 min mark of the replay compiling stats, and it never looks as bad on the replay as what I think watching live.

A lot of the good things Aus are doing are harder to see live - like Bos's spectacular runs being easy to appreciate, or Iran's shooting and dribbling.

At the 12 min mark, Canada have had quite a few fast ball carrying actions where they've had a player running with the ball for 15 metres or more. It looked great live, but Aus winning more 1v1s is harder to see live.

I've seen Grazor ask experienced refs like Nic Car Bel or Muz what they thought of the refereeing? I'd love to know too? I thought Canada should have been penalised for starting all the niggle.
 
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booney52 said:
It was Italiano's debut so will cut him some slack.He did look a bit overawed and his opponent Laryea was a good player and very niggly.Rowles also struggled on the other side against another good player.

The Canadians were frustrated by our defensive tactics and probably did think they could beat us as they had recently dispatched Wales and Romania.
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I'm only at the 12 min mark, but Aus are beating Canada in 1v1s aggregate.

This could have been frustrating Canada?

Aus has beaten every team since I've been recording 1v1s since Popa has taken over the Socceroos and I've recorded them.

All starting Socceroos on that pitch are robust ball winners - with Italiano being so at U23 Socceroo level.
 
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