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[patjennings]

Izzos looks insane. Not sure if pens scale differently with level of league to general play?

Ryan seemed to go early a lot which worked for in game pens. But it seemed the egyptians saw he went early and then delayed their shots

He does his own homework and analyses the penalty takers hips. That means he knows what to look for in the penalty. Was that work done by Juric? Did he have access to do that himself? Did he have the time or technology for him to do it himself? Probably not - he may have been told by Juric - this guys goes 6 times this way and 4 times that way, or he goes high or low. But with two days grace he would have done the work himself.

 

[LFC]

Just Slater trying to be outlandish. How surprising.

Yet so many say no one in the media ask or make noise over anything that should be said.
Right or not or indifferent least he stirs the pot the way I see it.
He sure would have more idea than anyone in here with all due respect.

 

[patjennings]

Yet so many say no one in the media ask or make noise over anything that should be said.
Right or not or indifferent least he stirs the pot the way I see it.
He sure would have more idea than anyone in here with all due respect.

He is a pundit and like any pundit can say whatever he likes. but in general the 'reporters' rather than the pundits have given Popovic a very easy run. Even some of the pundits that are now changing their tune.

 

[grazorblade]

He is a pundit and like any pundit can say whatever he likes. but in general the 'reporters' rather than the pundits have given Popovic a very easy run. Even some of the pundits that are now changing their tune.

Need something in between cheer leading and rants, wish the blowtorch was on the fa for our pathways (to be fair vince rugari took that angle but i didnt agree with his priorities in his smh article)

 

[JS96]

Yet so many say no one in the media ask or make noise over anything that should be said.
Right or not or indifferent least he stirs the pot the way I see it.
He sure would have more idea than anyone in here with all due respect.

Slater writes on the side and the articles don't get much air time. I'm of the opinion we need press asking Popovic up front iike they did when they grilled Ange.

 

[LFC]

Agree fellas
Pundits can only get so much airplay but as said least something comes through.
Yep patj JS - need the main media asking the curve ball questions.
Graz - there is nothing more I’d like is the FA put over the coals on many subjects never touched or exposed on them between the eyes.
Maybe one day

 

[HappyGuus]

I think FA would've held off re-signing Popa if the Asian Cup wasn't in just six months time. And they've only re-signed until the end of that tournament, so if there will be a change that would be the time to do it.

 

[zimbos05]

He coached us for less than a year part time. What is this platform you speak of?

He set us up to play attacking football and play with belief. We went from being a side that always stumbled at the last hurdle to matching it with the worlds best, and had it not been for a Grosso dive, we could have taken Italy. He brought in top level training methods and ideas and a structure in terms of how we can utilise the players we have. He also incorporated some of the youth to bring them into the idea and system he was trying to implement.

Robbie Slater coming out and saying Popovic made all the ridiculous punts in a bid to outdo Graham Arnold.

Slater is has been living off his one EPL medal. He is always bitter and angry. The sooner we move on from him as a pundit, the better.

 

[Robbos]

He coached us for less than a year part time. What is this platform you speak of?

He showed what goid coaching can do with Australuans.
He also highlighted that we lack quality to take next steps.

 

[Lurker]

He set us up to play attacking football and play with belief. We went from being a side that always stumbled at the last hurdle to matching it with the worlds best, and had it not been for a Grosso dive, we could have taken Italy. He brought in top level training methods and ideas and a structure in terms of how we can utilise the players we have. He also incorporated some of the youth to bring them into the idea and system he was trying to implement.


Slater is has been living off his one EPL medal. He is always bitter and angry. The sooner we move on from him as a pundit, the better.

BS.

Slater has knowledge base greater than any on this forum. You can only know what you see and Slater knows a lot.

You are free to disagree with his opinions but at least show him some respect.

 

[ClockworkOrange]

F

He set us up to play attacking football and play with belief. We went from being a side that always stumbled at the last hurdle to matching it with the worlds best, and had it not been for a Grosso dive, we could have taken Italy. He brought in top level training methods and ideas and a structure in terms of how we can utilise the players we have. He also incorporated some of the youth to bring them into the idea and system he was trying to implement.


Slater is has been living off his one EPL medal. He is always bitter and angry. The sooner we move on from him as a pundit, the better.

That’s one more than most …

 

[Alex M]

He set us up to play attacking football and play with belief. We went from being a side that always stumbled at the last hurdle to matching it with the worlds best, and had it not been for a Grosso dive, we could have taken Italy. He brought in top level training methods and ideas and a structure in terms of how we can utilise the players we have. He also incorporated some of the youth to bring them into the idea and system he was trying to implement.

He selected 3 players under 25 in his WC squad, only 2 of whom were making their debuts under him (Kennedy and Milligan). He was a very good coach (his record speaks for itself). His part time role and short term appointment wasn't aimed at, or responsible for, any long term development or programme for the national teams. He did his job and helped us get over the hump we couldn't get over for many years, but he didn't leave any long term legacy. That was never his job for us.

 

[BA81]

Slater has been living off his one EPL medal. He is always bitter and angry. The sooner we move on from him as a pundit, the better.

And Maradona ‘complimenting’ him after we got knocked out in the USA ‘94 qualifiers.

 

[Robbos]

He set us up to play attacking football and play with belief. We went from being a side that always stumbled at the last hurdle to matching it with the worlds best, and had it not been for a Grosso dive, we could have taken Italy. He brought in top level training methods and ideas and a structure in terms of how we can utilise the players we have. He also incorporated some of the youth to bring them into the idea and system he was trying to implement.


Slater is has been living off his one EPL medal. He is always bitter and angry. The sooner we move on from him as a pundit, the better.

Spot on on both counts.

Under Farina, we were going nowhere.

Under Guus, exactly what you said.

Slater lost me a long ago when the Socceroos were playing out from the back & Slater said just pump it long, now all A-League teams (sometimes comically) play out from the back, why, this is the way football is played all around the world.
He is old school, hard work gets you a long way, but only if you have talent & us Aussies have always struggle bar a few to have high quality talent.

 

[Barca4life]

The only issue I had with Ange was why he changed to a back 3 after the Thailand result?
There was no need for that we were looking fine with the 4-3-3 and the 4-2-3-1 as well there was no need to move to a back 3 outside of tactical reasons of course.

I think as much we loved Ange he was uncompromising with hes approach especially when he’s tactics he wasn’t willing to be flexible as he always said plan b was to make plan a better but we had issues at the latter stages of World Cup qualifying.

 

[zimbos05]

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That’s one more than most …

Djimi Traore has a Champions League medal, but he's probably not the defender you're taking analysis from.

He selected 3 players under 25 in his WC squad, only 2 of whom were making their debuts under him (Kennedy and Milligan). He was a very good coach (his record speaks for itself). His part time role and short term appointment wasn't aimed at, or responsible for, any long term development or programme for the national teams. He did his job and helped us get over the hump we couldn't get over for many years, but he didn't leave any long term legacy. That was never his job for us.

At yet his tenure is still being spoken about 20 years later. He wasn't given a mandate to do any of that, you're right, yet he still did. Any competent football fan or leader looks at what he does and goes, "ok, how do we keep this momentum going". He gave us belief in our players. We beat Japan, matched Croatia and Italy. Played attacking and exciting football. We believed that we were not just making up the numbers, but we are actually a football country, and we could compete with the worlds best. That is the building blocks and foundations needed for the legacy. I never said he left a legacy. The post I replied to said he left no platform.

 

[Barca4life]

Haven't we had a national curriculum since 2009 based around a 4-3-3 Dutch model? Don't know, might be a few years old, did it change with Hans Berger? Like if we have then surely we commit not just to train, but play that way as well. No point training and aiming to play 'total football' but then on game day try and playing like the Italians. Like didn't the Japanese also decide on a centralised playing philosophy and try and roll it out at all levels.

This was the playing style from the FFA NC they now binned

"A pro-active brand of football, based on effective possession, with the cutting edge provided by creative individuals.
Defensively the key components are quick transition and intelligent collective pressing.
The Playing Style is underpinned by a strong ‘team mentality’, capitalizing on Australia’s traditional strengths"

Why bin this approach when we are asking for something similar now?

 

[Barca4life]

We did in a way but the first ntc was just a bunch of principles and the 2nd had how to implement them
If the ntc is right that the golden age of technical development is 10-13, then the first to go through it are born 2000 or after for round 1 and 2005 and after for round 2

There seems to be an improvement but its hard to know how much credit goes to different factors since the they all happen at a similar time
- more early game time for young players due to a league financial distress
- the national curriculum
- a league clubs having academies

It should be said that as welcome as the improvement is, we are still well behind the golden generation

If there was a 2nd harry kewell, he would be born 2006 and playing regularly for an upper table epl club last season

If we had a second aloisi, one of the lesser lights of the golden generation, we would have a 2007 born striker scoring regularly for a mid table belgium team last season

We dont have anyone near that, we have to hope that we have some late developers. Volpato, bos and circati have hit a promising level and a few youngsters look like they could too. But i strongly suspect without majour changes to our pathways we wont hit the level we had before

We might have improved technically but we still lack a clear style of play for our national teams, we are still doing the things today which the FFA NC which was lamenting on.

 

[Pasquali]

Djimi Traore has a Champions League medal, but he's probably not the defender you're taking analysis from.

At yet his tenure is still being spoken about 20 years later. He wasn't given a mandate to do any of that, you're right, yet he still did. Any competent football fan or leader looks at what he does and goes, "ok, how do we keep this momentum going". He gave us belief in our players. We beat Japan, matched Croatia and Italy. Played attacking and exciting football. We believed that we were not just making up the numbers, but we are actually a football country, and we could compete with the worlds best. That is the building blocks and foundations needed for the legacy. I never said he left a legacy. The post I replied to said he left no platform.

After 2010 our talent pool went to crap. Ange's attacking philosophy meant we were a post away from not qualifying for 2018.

 

[zimbos05]

After 2010 our talent pool went to crap. Ange's attacking philosophy meant we were a post away from not qualifying for 2018.

He also won us a major tournament. Yeah, we came close and I'm not saying that defensive football doesn't have its place. Essentially, that talent pool dropping in 2010 is not Guus fault because he laid the foundations, it was whoever took over that was meant to continue