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Sign Up Now!It's just so boring and predictable. Bayern have too much leverage and skill. Teams are cowardly and submit even before the game starts.Bayern beat Stuttgart 4–2 at home to clinch the Bundesliga title. The “Farmers’ League” moniker remains.
Yeah it’s pretty annoying that the same bloody team wins the Bundesliga (which is otherwise a great league) every year (other than Leverkusen in 2023–24) and it’s not even close. That’s why I worry that even if France and Scotland change champions (i.e. should Lens win Ligue 1 and Hearts or Rangers win the Premiership) that it’ll just revert back to the same old default winners next season as the past has shown with those two and with Germany.It's just so boring and predictable. Bayern have too much leverage and skill. Teams are cowardly and submit even before the game starts.
When I started 20 years ago it was special. You had all the big clubs there and the occasional change of champions. Each club also had a few hard nuts and cult figures.Yeah it’s pretty annoying that the same bloody team wins the Bundesliga (which is otherwise a great league) every year (other than Leverkusen in 2023–24) and it’s not even close. That’s why I worry that even if France and Scotland change champions (i.e. should Lens win Ligue 1 and Hearts or Rangers win the Premiership) that it’ll just revert back to the same old default winners next season as the past has shown with those two and with Germany.
It’s even showing in the Frauen-Bundesliga now. It used to be quite competitive with Bayern, Frankfurt, Turbine Potsdam (who were relegated last season) and Wolfsburg having all won titles from 2000–01 to 2021–22 (with Wolfsburg having won the most; no Dortmund though as their women’s team are still making their way up the pyramid) until Bayern started outspending them and now they win everything every year (they’ve won the past three titles and did the treble last season). Bayern are once again gonna win the league and are currently 13 points clear of Wolfsburg (who are second) this season. It’s like France’s Première Ligue or Spain’s Liga F now.
I know it’s a cliché term but the Frauen-Bundesliga and the Herren-Bundesliga are both farmer’s leagues. It’s ruining German football.
I think the great thing about German football (especially back then) is it’s less corporate (e.g. clubs are fan-owned, the 50+1 rule, etc). You get proper atmospheres there unlike in England.When I started 20 years ago it was special. You had all the big clubs there and the occasional change of champions. Each club also had a few hard nuts and cult figures.
Now it's just full of kids and foreign academy loans with stupid hairstyles. It's become a development league for those from French, English and Dutch academies where some raw player gets put on a pedestal.
The clubs used to have figures that would resonate with that club and stay a decent amount of time. You got to know who belonged where.
How often are there flares, pyro and good tifos at English games? Spurs did a great tifo earlier this season but Arsenal’s one looked like a bathroom curtain. You’ll never see anything like Dortmund’s Yellow Wall in the Prem.The ONLY good positive about German football is the 50+1 rule nothing else is….
Oh get off
The atmosphere I’ve experienced at English football is just as good.
Same when I’ve been to Italy Portugal Mexico and elsewhere.
Every place has its unique vibe atmosphere but great active support as expected
Hansa looking lonely lol.View attachment 6951
Plenty of good clubs there and football betting better all the time. The vast majority are decent sized cities too.
Crazy to see Düsseldorf back down there but 38 matches would be a great place for a few budding Australians to get their European entry.
It’s so odd seeing how bad Wolfsburg Men are when Wolfsburg Women always do so well. Lyon are similar in that regard though at least their men’s team aren’t completely hopeless.Paderborn are promoted and Wolfsburg are down in the playoff.
Many Wolfsburg players will be snapped up as they're capable. Terrible team of some decent individuals.