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Definitely adding non ethnic Cook IslandsFC fast tracked !
 
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Frankly Speaking said:
Gold Coast, Christchurch, Townsville, and Canberra would be a good quadrilla.
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I think you are close. I suspect Canberra and Christchurch will be next. But Hobart will come before Townsville. They will want summer tenants for their billion dollar stadium and Townsville is becoming more problematic with storms for a summer comp. Gold Coast already has a good stadium and then really it comes down to Canberra or Western United waking up from their hibernation . If you are greedy make a 18 team comp. 14 should be a doddle. 16 for 4 years later 18 is a 10 year stretch target but unlikely. But 34 H&A plus Australia Cup plus AFC tournaments makes for a real first division.

The problem then comes how to grow and integrate a proper H&A championship with it. We need both - not one - and they need to be connected.

Maybe teams from Canberra (embarrassing that Wellington is in but Canberra isn't) and Hobart (stadium needs tenants) come next.

Then Western United/Geelong focusing more on Geelong gets reborn with Christchurch buying-in .

The remaining 2 can come from the Australian Championship with NPL joint ventures above their NPL teams for Gold Coast, Townsville /FNQ or Sunshine Coast or any other team that can meet football criteria and minimum standard night-time broadcast standards on football merit.

Don't know how it will work but someone is getting paid big dollars to plan this - make it happen. Hopefully before 2034 but definitely by then - with no protection for APL clubs except a tier to go back to and not disappear entirely!!
 
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patjennings said:
I think you are close. I suspect Canberra and Christchurch will be next. But Hobart will come before Townsville. They will want summer tenants for their billion dollar stadium and Townsville is becoming more problematic with storms for a summer comp. Gold Coast already has a good stadium and then really it comes down to Canberra or Western United waking up from their hibernation for team 16. If you are greedy both plus Townsville would make a 18 team comp. 14 should be a doddle. 16 for 4 years later 18 is a 10 year stretch target but unlikely. But 34 H&A plus Australia Cup plus AFC tournaments makes for a real first division.

The problem then comes how to grow and integrate a proper H&A championship with it. We need both - not one - and they need to be connected, Maybe teams Canberra and Hobart (stadium needs tenants) come next and the remaining 4 become become NPL joint ventures above their NPL teams for Gold Coast, Western United/Geelong and South Hobart in the Championship and joined by Christchurch buy-in straight to APL. Chamioppship refilled from the NPL.

Don't know how it will work but someone is getting paid big dollars to plan this - make it happen.
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Agree with the vision. I'd add them all ASAP and hook it up to the second tier with pro/rel. They might not all survive, so just add them all and see which ones have what it takes. We can't do another Western or Macarthur where one or both fall over and we've lost another decade.

"They will want summer tenants for their billion dollar stadium" - I reckon they will, AFLW and Big Bash 🤢. That's pretty much what the AFL did to us once they acquired Docklands, and the Kardinia Park Trust.

"Don't know how it will work but someone is getting paid big dollars to plan this" - Unfortunately, I don't think anyone at FA/APL are planning it. APL's big expansion talk has been proven false, and FA dragged their feet to some kind of second tier which took eight years before a ball was kicked. New Zealand will go past us in 2027 with a full pyramid, and they only started discussing it earlier this year! We should've connected it years ago, but now they're too afraid of losing more money/owners when they're already broke.
 
patjennings said:
I think you are close. I suspect Canberra and Christchurch will be next. But Hobart will come before Townsville. They will want summer tenants for their billion dollar stadium and Townsville is becoming more problematic with storms for a summer comp. Gold Coast already has a good stadium and then really it comes down to Canberra or Western United waking up from their hibernation . If you are greedy make a 18 team comp. 14 should be a doddle. 16 for 4 years later 18 is a 10 year stretch target but unlikely. But 34 H&A plus Australia Cup plus AFC tournaments makes for a real first division.

The problem then comes how to grow and integrate a proper H&A championship with it. We need both - not one - and they need to be connected.

Maybe teams from Canberra (embarrassing that Wellington is in but Canberra isn't) and Hobart (stadium needs tenants) come next.

Then Western United/Geelong focusing more on Geelong gets reborn with Christchurch buying-in .

The remaining 2 can come from the Australian Championship with NPL joint ventures above their NPL teams for Gold Coast, Townsville /FNQ or Sunshine Coast or any other team that can meet football criteria and minimum standard night-time broadcast standards on football merit.

Don't know how it will work but someone is getting paid big dollars to plan this - make it happen. Hopefully before 2034 but definitely by then - with no protection for APL clubs except a tier to go back to and not disappear entirely!!
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Good points but the Tas stadium is looking increasingly unlikey. Agree that weather and Townsville is an issue.

Tbh I think that the only
commercially attractive possibility is Gold Coast, based on stadium, population growth, and a built in rivalry with Brisbane.

It is very, very difficult to see where any investors come from right now, with current competition metrics.
 
Having just returned from New Zealand it was amazing the coverage that football gets over there in comparison to our media. Apart from Sky Sports which i didn't always have access the general coverage in the news was on a par with all other sports - often better. In addition there were a number of replays and highlight shows on FTA. If the APL can get a better deal from Sky Sports I can see Christchurch with the new stadium opening in 6 weeks being a very attractive location.
 
patjennings said:
Having just returned from New Zealand it was amazing the coverage that football gets over there in comparison to our media. Apart from Sky Sports which i didn't always have access the general coverage in the news was on a par with all other sports - often better. In addition there were a number of replays and highlight shows on FTA. If the APL can get a better deal from Sky Sports I can see Christchurch with the new stadium opening in 6 weeks being a very attractive location.
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Coverage of which football though? A Liga? or overseas? Or Chatham Cup?
 
GDEATHE said:
Hekari United FC 🇵🇬
Oh, and Bali United 🇮🇩
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Those two already exist, though - and fat chance of either(esp. Hekari due to being in a diff. confed) ever joining the ALM.

That said, I wouldn’t be at all opposed to a separate Bali-based side created for the league; if it markets itself primarily for the Aussie/Kiwi/Brit etc. expats/tourists there, that’s a readymade point-of-difference from Bali Utd already💡
 
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patjennings said:
A League both men and women.
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Personally, I think the situation has got much, much worse here over the past decade. I don't think it is indulging in far-fetched conspiracy theories to suggest that the main media groups, with their direct financial interest in other football codes, have orchestrated a strategy of burying association football.
 
I heard the APL is shopping around a new Aleague license, they want only 14 mill now....

South Melbourne have offered to buy it for 1 million .. but the person whol told was pretty pissed at the time :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
I heard the APL is shopping around a new Aleague license, they want only 14 mill now....

South Melbourne have offered to buy it for 1 million .. but the person whol told was pretty pissed at the time :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
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So bascially not only are you buying a license for a football club you're also taking care of the debts that the other idiots have incurred since the APL and their administrative monkey shenigans starting to feebly attempt to run the show. You'd have to be a fucking moron not to see through what such a large up front payment is all about.
 
erogenouszone said:
So bascially not only are you buying a license for a football club you're also taking care of the debts that the other idiots have incurred since the APL and their administrative monkey shenigans starting to feebly attempt to run the show. You'd have to be a fucking moron not to see through what such a large up front payment is all about.
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I got the feeling that our offer was more a fuck you to APL than anything serious. If there indeed was even an ofer at all... Just interesting that they have gone from expecting 18-20 mill to 14 mill in a year... If I was Tassie or Canberra I would wait for a few years, should be able to pick up a franchise for a couple of pallets of Smiths chips and a cheese sandwich.
 
I thought $1 was the going rate these days haha. I guess one comes with debt the other doesn't?
 
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