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Dual nationals: the ones that got away

dr. bellows said:
Depends how far you want to stretch it. Richard Porta represented Uruguay U23s but was never called up by Socceroos. Brendan Gan and Matthew Davies played for Malaysia but were never likely to be capped for us. Same for Iain Ramsay, who played for Phillipines. There was some debate at the time about Andy Rose's eligibility but he never showed much interest anyway and was never capped internationally. Given that Luke Vickery gained Indonesian citizenship last month and Indonesia doesn't accept dual citizenship, I guess that means he's gone now. Mitchell Baker now represents Indonesia and scored a hat-trick for them on debut.
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And Shane Lowry and Bradley Tapp (both JDT), both just became naturalised Malaysians.
 
Kitwally said:
And Shane Lowry and Bradley Tapp (both JDT), both just became naturalised Malaysians.
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Johor Darul Ta'zim have registered both Shane Lowry and Bradley Tapp as Malaysian players but I don't think either of them have completed the naturalisation process yet.
 
rebelliousfeminist974 said:
Both Shane Lowry and Bradley Tapp are still listed as having Australian nationality on the JDT website but they were registered as local players on their playing list for Malaysia Super League season 2026-27.
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I get that but how can they be registered as local Malaysian players if they haven’t completed naturalisation? Then again, the Sultan of Johor is the owner and he can basically do whatever he wants, he even has his own army.
 
Bunch_of_hacks said:
Past..

Johnston - England B. 5 x league winner. 1 x EC. 1 x FAC.

Dorigo - England 15 caps, WC 3rd place playoff, EPL TOTS 93/94, POTS at his first 4 clubs inc Villa, Chelsea, Leeds and Derby. Also at Torino. 1 x league winner.

Graham Rutjes - Netherlands 13 caps. 90 WC. 5 x belgian leagues, 1 x cup winners cup, 1 x european super cup.

Christian Vieri - Italy 49 caps, 23 goals. Serie A italian POTS x 2. 1 x Serie A topscorer. 1 x pichichi. 1 x serie a. 1 x cup winners cup. Fifa 100.

Sasa Illic - Yugoslavia 2 caps. Club revcord 9 clean sheets for charlton. Premier league player.

Antony Seric - Croatia 16 caps.WC 3rd place playoff, 1 x turkish league, 1 x turkish cup.

Joey Simunic - Croatia 105 caps. Bundi TOTS 08/09, Best defender 08/09, nsl youth player of the yr, german league cup x 2, croatia league winner x 4.

Ivan Ergic - Serbia 11 caps. 4 x swiss league, 1 x turkish league. 06 world cup.

Joey Didulica - Croatia 4 caps. Wc 06 member.

Giorgios Samaras - Greece 81 caps, 9 goals. 4 x spl. 2x scottish cup. Spl player of the month.

Avram Papadopolous - Greece 37 caps. 2010 WC, 2012 Euros, 8 x greek league, greek league POTS, 3 x TOTS.

Ersan Golum - Turkey 7 caps. 2 x turkish league winner. 2nd div TOTS.

Daniel Georgievski- Macedonia 22 caps. 2 x romanian league. 1 x a league winner. 1 x marston medal.

Oztumer - Turkish under 23s. English League 1 TOTS x 2.

Lyndon Dykes - Scotland 53 caps, 10 goals. 26 World cup.

Triantis - Greece 5 caps.

Segecic - Croatia under 21s.




Im all out .. anyone ive missed?

Looking at the above. As good as our Golden gen were, imagine how good we'd have been with Vieiri, Seric, Ergic, Simunic, Papadopoulos, Golum and Samaras added to it 😲
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Are you only counting ones that played for good teams? If not there's a few more I can think of.
 
kiro kompiro said:
If you're not going to represent your nation when it honours you with call up, then you really are not Australian. You're someone who lives in Australia and might have a piece of paper that says you're a citizen, but that's it. Speak whatever you want, eat whatever, but when you don't answer the call, its clear where your heart is.
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Segecic and Triantis were born here. They are Australian by birth and play for other countries because Popovic was too bloody minded to lock them in.
 
patjennings said:
Segecic and Triantis were born here. They are Australian by birth and play for other countries because Popovic was too bloody minded to lock them in.
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Nup. Not having it.

I don't care that they were born here.

The notion they had to be "locked in" to play for us says everything about where their allegiances lay/.

If they REALLY wanted to represent Australia, they would have. Its as simple as that.
 
HonestSpursFan said:
Are you only counting ones that played for good teams? If not there's a few more I can think of.
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Please list them. I listed all the ones that were genuine losses where we wanted to cap them but they chose else. Then again several of them we didnt even try cap shockingly, including Simunic, Papadopoulous, Samaras and Ergic. Seric we hilariously called him up the same time as Croatia for a match against each other, Australia losing 3-0.
 
patjennings said:
Segecic and Triantis were born here. They are Australian by birth and play for other countries because Popovic was too bloody minded to lock them in.
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They play for other countries because they wanted to. Popovic didn't sign the transfer papers, they did.
 
patjennings said:
Okay - continue the love in that Popovic knows all. Remember he thought Hiddink was wring for taking him off against Uruguay and took almost eight years to admit to Hiddink he was wrong.

And let's pretend that he never represents one thing to the player and their family, gets them to waste thousands bringing the extended family from overseas, uses the guy in advertising and press conferences and then stiffs him and the whole family.

Let's just continue with haram ball and make sure that anyone that currently loves football gets totally shitted off with the style of play. We as a code don't have to worry about other codes when we set up to have no route to goal.

He set us a to fail - or more importantly - with no way to win. Part of that is his squad selections. We will look back when he is gone and wonder why we squandered the talent we had and have lost and will probably continue to lose, not only because of his squad selection but also the destruction of one of the great brands in Australian sports and the subsequent dip in male participation that it will cause.

When we play the same against against Brazil and get smashed and follow it up by being knocked out in the quarters at the Asian Cup next season will likely see male participation in the sport dip for the first time in my memory.

Do you think I'm overegging it. I think it is another example of Australian football shooting itself in the foot again.

He is nowhere near good enough as modern Socceroo manager - more akin to Brian Green or Jimmy Shoulder though with a better cohort of players to choose from (though those players were semi-pro).
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No argument there.

Getting back to Segecic and Triantis, THEY chose to not to play for Australia. They were what 21, 22 years old at the time? Plenty of time to time to make the squad
 
Bunch_of_hacks said:
Please list them. I listed all the ones that were genuine losses where we wanted to cap them but they chose else. Then again several of them we didnt even try cap shockingly, including Simunic, Papadopoulous, Samaras and Ergic. Seric we hilariously called him up the same time as Croatia for a match against each other, Australia losing 3-0.
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Hold on I’ll do a full list of them later.
 
Alex M said:
They play for other countries because they wanted to. Popovic didn't sign the transfer papers, they did.
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You're like a broken record player on this. As said countless times before, both Segecic and Triantis initially made the decision to commit to Australia despite being eligible for other countries. That was their decision, NOT to play for another nation. Both then changed their mind after being shafted by Popovic despite being deserving of game time, whilst inferior players were preferred. You can't conveniently look at their decision to represent Croatia / Greece in isolation, and ignore all that came before it including their initial decision and the reason they changed their mind. Both will go down in the history books as massive man-management failures. That will be Popa's legacy. I know you're too blinkered on this to change your mind, so I'm probably wasting my time explaining it again.

If you're performing exceptionally at work and your boss keeps overlooking you for promotion in favour of peoplethat aren't nearly as good, and eventually you get fed up and move to a new company, who is the problem? You or your boss?
 
kiro kompiro said:
If you're not going to represent your nation when it honours you with call up, then you really are not Australian. You're someone who lives in Australia and might have a piece of paper that says you're a citizen, but that's it. Speak whatever you want, eat whatever, but when you don't answer the call, its clear where your heart is.
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Sure, these two boys just jumped on Temu and bought Socceroos jerseys like every other muppet on here that claims they know them and their feelings.
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