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Breaking Barriers - web series 📺

HappyGuus

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Has anyone heard which club this is? I'm guessing the bottom of the Victorian pyramid and somewhere in the southeast.

Breaking Barriers has a simple premise: select an unspectacular grassroots soccer club and attempt to guide them up the Australian soccer pyramid, all the way to the top.
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www.theage.com.au

‘There’s almost no way this can happen’: This is Australia’s answer to Welcome to Wrexham

Comedian Ed Kavalee is the face of a bold new project aiming to take a grassroots soccer club all the way to the A-League.
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HappyGuus said:


If they're going to talk every week about different football systems like Japan and how to get pro/rel working here, then I'm in heaven haha. Right up my alley.

Matt Windley on the G&G pod @grazorblade ?
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Definitely would like to...question is when. Should we wait for the doco series to finish

I wrote a fan view responding to some of the talking points vince made, i could try and get him on the pod if he is willing
 
grazorblade said:
Definitely would like to...question is when. Should we wait for the doco series to finish

I wrote a fan view responding to some of the talking points vince made, i could try and get him on the pod if he is willing
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Turned it off when FLopari stated talking about "the NSL clubs never wanted pro/rel when THEY were at the top".. what a piece of garbage he is...
 
Some interesting points.

You can't get relegated from the A Leagues. But no block from below except meeting minimum standards. So NOT a closed shop.

A mix of 'buying in' to be a shareholder in the A-Leagues and associate members, i.e. meet the minimum standards, win promotion and you are in.

While you have 20 or so teams you can keep your current ALM derbies via the split rounds, but eventually, when you get to larger numbers and you have to get rid of split rounds then that will no longer be able to be protected (something not discussed - but inherent in the design).

Since there is no block on the number of NPL clubs that can aspire to 'tick the boxes' of minimum standards there is potential for more levels. The question then comes back to the individual clubs. Do they want to go further, or is their aim and vision more grass roots based.

Maybe not the panacea for all ills. But an interesting discussion.
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
Turned it off when FLopari stated talking about "the NSL clubs never wanted pro/rel when THEY were at the top".. what a piece of garbage he is...
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Not a fan of this comment either.

I wasn't a fan of their overall model. Pro/rel is needed from top to bottom. Have criteria for finances, stadium size, etc but make it clear what clubs have to do to get promoted. Basically you have to finish top 2 and meet the criteria. Make it realistic criteria so everyone knows what they have to do on and off the field.
 
theFOOTBALLlover said:
Not a fan of this comment either.

I wasn't a fan of their overall model. Pro/rel is needed from top to bottom. Have criteria for finances, stadium size, etc but make it clear what clubs have to do to get promoted. Basically you have to finish top 2 and meet the criteria. Make it realistic criteria so everyone knows what they have to do on and off the field.
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I actually thought that was what they were saying. It is an opt in choice. Fulfil the criteria and win promotion you're in and can't be kicked out - in 30-40 years can eventually be ~100 clubs. If your clubs ticks the boxes and wins promotion you are in - at the bottom - with the ability to progress.If you choose not to go in - that is your choice. If you choose to drop out after being in - that is your choice.
 
patjennings said:
I actually thought that was what they were saying. It is an opt in choice. Fulfil the criteria and win promotion you're in and can't be kicked out - in 30-40 years can eventually be ~100 clubs. If your clubs ticks the boxes and wins promotion you are in - at the bottom - with the ability to progress.If you choose not to go in - that is your choice. If you choose to drop out after being in - that is your choice.
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So no real incentive to perform well after reaching the warm embrace of the APL? ...Do we really want a bunch of "clubs" squatting on a licence just to collect the annual TV distribution or be the loss leader for a council property development deal?
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
So no real incentive to perform well after reaching the warm embrace of the APL? ...Do we really want a bunch of "clubs" squatting on a licence just to collect the annual TV distribution or be the loss leader for a council property development deal?
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Well I guess the real incentive is to move up. Why have the Championship? But it really comes back to the club having the choice. They can opt-in or they can opt-out. I suppose past 2034 you can force clubs out but if there is no team to come in (they don't meet minimum standards) then no they will essentially be sitting on a license
 
do you think our game can sustain and wait till 2034 onwards before anything can happen/change for the better ?
What IF the APL hardly sucker in any new owners for say the next 2 seasons ? and nothing much changes ? crowds are their saving grace what if crowds stay similar to what they are now then what ?
 
LFC said:
do you think our game can sustain and wait till 2034 onwards before anything can happen/change for the better ?
What IF the APL hardly sucker in any new owners for say the next 2 seasons ? and nothing much changes ? crowds are their saving grace what if crowds stay similar to what they are now then what ?
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No - it can't. But equally I can't see the problem of relegation out of a multi tier A leagues as a problem until after 2034 - probably well after.
 
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