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zimbos05 said:
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Those are just the few I found in 30 seconds, that were released immediately after the attack. So go on. Do the thing that the right often does and pretend to play dumb and just continue to push the narratives that suit them.

Here I am, a Muslim, who follows the religion in private, who loves Australia, and has fallen in love with everything about this place. I froth a bbq, and have my Broncos stubby cooler next to the couch for my non-alcoholic drinks when I watch the games. I participate in time honoured traditions at events and in my social life. I respect every individual Australian to live their life the way they feel comfortable. An example of all you claim Muslims to not be, yet you insist that Muslims are violent hateful vitriolic, and that all 2 billion of us are the same. The first rule of Shariah is to follow the laws and to respect the people and values of the land in which you live. If you can't do that, you are not following what your religion tells you, and therefore, not practicing Islam properly.

Has social media warped your thinking? I'd say yes. It certainly has fucked with mine.
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Of course they have too, standard rinse and repeat until the next attack.
 
Beretta said:
Of course they have too, standard rinse and repeat until the next attack.
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For me there are three groups. Prominent, educated muslims who side with western values and denounce all the bad things committed an call it out despite harsh criticism in their own community. A separate group, equally educated and westernised but are in absolute denial of issues and use the entire discourse for their platform. The third being the core issue group. Radical numbskulls who should either be locked up or deported who have a lot of sympathy for people akin to death eaters who are easily manipulated. Is the third a minority in Australia? Currently I think so but more migration is piling it on.

I think the third group outnumbers the others in Europe 3 to 1. A few more triggers and then they'll really start up. They already control Brussels and parts of Paris and Berlin. Police budgets are too thin to cover this. Again, the second group denies there are no go zones. It's just delusional.

As if any radical will listen to all those prominent muslim media members who keep telling us there's nothing to be worried about. It's just so stupid and naive to think educated members of their faith can talk them out of this. The general public aren't concerned with Farouk down the road who always waves and wants to pay cash. It's the low IQ hoards that over the next 20 years will lead to massive demographic and ideological change.

The powderkeg in Europe is building and it's the muslims sick of the shit from their own and the rest of good society against those who've been baying for a fight and sympathise with terrorists.
 
JS96 said:
For me there are three groups. Prominent, educated muslims who side with western values and denounce all the bad things committed an call it out despite harsh criticism in their own community. A separate group, equally educated and westernised but are in absolute denial of issues and use the entire discourse for their platform. The third being the core issue group. Radical numbskulls who should either be locked up or deported who have a lot of sympathy for people akin to death eaters who are easily manipulated. Is the third a minority in Australia? Currently I think so but more migration is piling it on.

I think the third group outnumbers the others in Europe 3 to 1. A few more triggers and then they'll really start up. They already control Brussels and parts of Paris and Berlin. Police budgets are too thin to cover this. Again, the second group denies there are no go zones. It's just delusional.

As if any radical will listen to all those prominent muslim media members who keep telling us there's nothing to be worried about. It's just so stupid and naive to think educated members of their faith can talk them out of this. The general public aren't concerned with Farouk down the road who always waves and wants to pay cash. It's the low IQ hoards that over the next 20 years will lead to massive demographic and ideological change.

The powderkeg in Europe is building and it's the muslims sick of the shit from their own and the rest of good society against those who've been baying for a fight and sympathise with terrorists.
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Parts of France & Germany had to cancel all Christmas plans and celebrations because the threats of terrorism received from these pigs.
 
Pair were interviewed in 2019 with no signs of radicalisation.

Naveed Akram came to the attention of authorities in October 2019 because he was "closely connected" to Isaac El Matari, who was later jailed for terrorist offenses and had declared himself the IS commander for Australia.

Innocent until proven guilty but the trip to The Philippines should've been flagged. They were off the radar by then no doubt. Still, ASIO interviews, hunting club membership, odd personality, there's enough there to be on a watch list. I reckon these guys are small fry compared to those being monitored.
 
Beretta said:
Parts of France & Germany had to cancel all Christmas plans and celebrations because the threats of terrorism received from these pigs.
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Good time to be a truck bollard company. You wouldn't believe the security spending this year. I've gone once and the bollards everywhere sour it all.

The dumbest thing is there's an adjustable bollard with a key and they have some poor sod who needs to open it every 90 seconds to let a tram through. Ironically the staff doing this are all Syrians. Some fine people I'm sure but the make up, mindset and influence amongst security staff in Europe as well as stewards in German stadiums, allows for infiltration. It's just mental that the security and steward industry is run on razor thin budgets for cheap workers with slipping standards. My Hannover block is now full of Indian staff who can't speak German. Differing cultures towards safety and emergencies just lead to shrugging of shoulders when something goes wrong.
 
What this country needs is more people in the streets sinking cans waving chinese made australian flags
 
Robbos said:
Why is this rubbish?

people can be against genocide, if you can't see what is happening in Palestine, you need to open your eyes.
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Exactly. It's unsurprising that people might chant 'fuck the jews' when the country that is committing wholesale slaughter and destruction of Gaza is fucking Israel.
 
on hand people saying this is attack against jews etc...which is fair enough but then everyone is getting around down there with israel flags, which dilutes that message a little.
 
Sutherlandbear said:
You will finally reap what you sow", has many different meanings, DYOR!!!!

And, none of your business, you are trouble, capital T.
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Yes, and in this case, it is threatening.

I'm only trouble because I can have a logical discussion without crying.

Beretta said:
Of course they have too, standard rinse and repeat until the next attack.
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"Muslims never condemn anything, ever".
*muslims condemn*.
"Those are fake, I'm going to keep saying my arguments even though evidence has proven me wrong"
 
LFC said:
Now this is the misunderstanding, I'm all for Palestine being free importantly treated with respect and decency and live civilly - I have no respect for Netanyahu he's a snake tirant you name it - my point is any protest/march for Palestine is fuelling the fire for these F nuts - therefore don't do them, it giving these F kers the opportunity to main/kill innocent people - thats my outlook and covers the below a bit as well.
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That's the problem. No one can stand up for Palestine because as soon as anyone does, it gets labelled anti-semitic. No matter how many times people say it's anti-zionism. Even Jewish organisations and groups who support Palestine and attend the rallies say the same thing. Yet everyone keeps ignoring it.

Look at this attack, how many Israel flags are now out in public. That flag is an affront to many Jews across the globe. Would we say that they should ban the Rallies For Australia too? The moment you ban rallies, you move ever closer to fascism. That's what the right wants, fascism. People like Beretta, Sutho, vanlassen, they would want us living in a fascist dictatorship and your suggestion plays directly into that.
 
Palestine is not Hamas. Having an issue with Hamas shouldn’t stop the Palestinian people from returning to their homeland and having their own homeland.

This issue was started by the British government when they gave Palestine to Zionists. Imagine someone else giving your home away. The people that support Israel are the ones that support colonialism. Whether it be history or western countries invading sovereign nations for no legitimate reasons. There are processes to everything and that is why the UN was created. Unfortunately, we have countries who think they are above the law.
 
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zimbos05 said:
Oh, the irony

The right should just stop making claims because whenever evidence gets provided to prove them wrong, they just ignore it. So, don't ever pretend that you care for evidence or facts.
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The right what ? I don't have a side FFS.
 
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