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patjennings said:
Demographics change, boundaries change and so do political parties and they all have an effect.

At the end of the day it sometimes doesn't come down to 'footy tribe' loyalty but the individual member. When I was younger we had a local state member that the ministry used to call 'the minister for bus stops' because of his pursuit for his electorate.

That's why when an independent that fits the electorate is elected they become incredibly difficult to shift. They not only suit the sensibility of the voters they also fight for their voters needs over what would be a parties agenda.
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yep and that how/why Steggall got in, you got to read the room as my wife says.
Same applied to Johnny in Bennelong way back then when he lost his seat by McKew.
Hence growth of Independents.
 
HonestSpursFan said:
I disagree. Do you also think Labor will never win back seats it lost or are threatened with losing? Did you think seats like Parramatta on the state level would always stay Liberal once Labor lost them, and that they now won’t go back to the Liberals?
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What I'm saying is that the reasons those seats were lost were ultimately about the politics. Without dealing with the inherent conflict at the heart of the losses, I don't think the Libs can win them back in the foreseeable future. With a large demographic shift or a change in the politics that got them there, of course it's possible.

I also think the Labor party are due the very same reckoning.
 
Punchanello said:
What I'm saying is that the reasons those seats were lost were ultimately about the politics. Without dealing with the inherent conflict at the heart of the losses, I don't think the Libs can win them back in the foreseeable future. With a large demographic shift or a change in the politics that got them there, of course it's possible.

I also think the Labor party are due the very same reckoning.
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yes agree - what goes around comes around.
Times keep changing.
IF you don't keep up with the times your left behind, business rule #101, life the same for some.
 
Punchanello said:
What I'm saying is that the reasons those seats were lost were ultimately about the politics. Without dealing with the inherent conflict at the heart of the losses, I don't think the Libs can win them back in the foreseeable future. With a large demographic shift or a change in the politics that got them there, of course it's possible.

I also think the Labor party are due the very same reckoning.
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I agree but I still think it’s worth pointing out that most Liberal voters are still Liberals, but they are at risk if the party moves further to the right. There’s no real benefit for the nationwide voter base in moving further to the right. There’s already a right-wing party, there needs to be a centre-right one as well.
 
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