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[Sharkman84]

Why rents could surge without helping first homebuyers

A leading property economist is warning Labor’s negative gearing and capital gains tax changes will cause rents to soar without seeing more first homebuyers enter the housing market as investors lost interest.

thenightly.com.au

 

[tsf]

The last 24 hours of one nation is hilarious.

Fucking pea brains and drunks.

Literally making up policy during interviews. Zero ideas.

A small part of me would like to see them in for the entertainment.

 

[tsf]

Transgender rights are such a minor side issue, I don't understand why they get so much fucking airtime.

With that said, I wonder what the Greens do in, say, 10 years if we continue to make such rapid progress on the energy transition. Their raison d'etre as a party is more or less gone.

Most greens voters are the off spring of liberal voters. They just live in the inner city and want to pretend they’re open minded while managing their investment portfolio.

 

[Toebash]

Most greens voters are the off spring of liberal voters. They just live in the inner city and want to pretend they’re open minded while managing their investment portfolio.

Interesting view, is there a reason you think that? I’ve historically largely voted Green. My parents are both rusted on labor voters and there’s nothing inner city about the shithole Sydney suburb I grew up in, nor do I have an investment portfolio (unless super counts!) From my interactions with greens voters, what you’ve said isn’t my experience of them at all.

 

[LFC]

Interesting view, is there a reason you think that? I’ve historically largely voted Green. My parents are both rusted on labor voters and there’s nothing inner city about the shithole Sydney suburb I grew up in, nor do I have an investment portfolio (unless super counts!) From my interactions with greens voters, what you’ve said isn’t my experience of them at all.

I tend to agree generally this.
I’m sure there is a % old er trendy city wanka yuppie ex Lib professional Hippocrites as tsf mentions but not the majority I feel.
Greens have been in plenty of lost souls from either side of the fence and swingers.

 

[tsf]

Interesting view, is there a reason you think that? I’ve historically largely voted Green. My parents are both rusted on labor voters and there’s nothing inner city about the shithole Sydney suburb I grew up in, nor do I have an investment portfolio (unless super counts!) From my interactions with greens voters, what you’ve said isn’t my experience of them at all.

Thats my experience in Melbourne. Maybe it’s different there but it’s largely the case here.

I live inner city, always have. Thats definitely what I have encountered here.

 

[LFC]

Thats my experience in Melbourne. Maybe it’s different there but it’s largely the case here.

I live inner city, always have. Thats definitely what I have encountered here.

Tsf
Being your state more so your city been a labor union state for an eternity prob more of them than the % of wannabee well off old Lib hipsters.

 

[Sharkman84]

I tend to agree generally this.
I’m sure there is a % old er trendy city wanka yuppie ex Lib professional Hippocrites as tsf mentions but not the majority I feel.
Greens have been in plenty of lost souls from either side of the fence and swingers.

The former you talk about are what makes up the Teals I feel.

 

[tsf]

Tsf
Being your state more so your city been a labor union state for an eternity prob more of them than the % of wannabee well off old Lib hipsters.

There are no much real ‘left wing’ people in Melbourne inner city.

‘Progressives’ yes. But rusted on working class left wingers? They have either mostly moved out or probably gone to right. This is only from personal experience but the majority of greens voters here are wealthy that have moved from other areas.

Or stupid students

 

[tsf]

Also not having a go at greens voters. Anyone can vote anyone. I don’t care.

There are probably some good greens politicians but the ones here for me were awful.

 

[HonestSpursFan]

Most greens voters are the off spring of liberal voters. They just live in the inner city and want to pretend they’re open minded while managing their investment portfolio.

Not true, most seem to come from Labor families and a lot are renters or quite poor (since the Greens believe we should just give out money). The most Green suburbs were all once working-class Labor strongholds with lots of trade union activity (Carlton, Collingwood, Fitzroy, Newtown, etc). Ironically though, Arthur Calwell (a former Labor leader who supported the White Australia Policy) held the federal seat of Melbourne, yet Adam Bandt (the leader of the Greens and a complete wokester) held it decades later.

However, teal voters are often either tactical Labor/Greens voters or wealthy people who were or whose parents were Liberals (the teal seats all overlap with Liberal state seats; in Sydney this is helped by the NSW Liberals being more moderate and NSW state elections using OPV over FPV). Many of the MPs and candidates themselves come from Liberal families (Monique Ryan didn’t though which is unsurprising).

 

[Football us life]

Thats my experience in Melbourne. Maybe it’s different there but it’s largely the case here.

I live inner city, always have. Thats definitely what I have encountered here.

Most of the Greens voters supporters I know or know of are generally nice middle class, mostly females who have enjoyed nice middle class upbringings with a good university education and now have reasonably good careers.

They tend to live in inner city districts where you'd probably need a 100K income just to get by.

One particular lady who my wife is very friendly with has a husband who drives a Ford Ranger Raptor!!

Apparently they neef it because they go camping a lot....

It's the classic pattern – people doing reasonably well in the "knowledge economy," living in walkable, amenity-rich (but expensive) inner suburbs, who prioritise issues like climate, social justice, and housing supply in theory, while personally insulated from the sharper edges of economic disruption amd less exposed to direct hits from energy price spikes, mining slowdowns, or manufacturing relocation.