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[Sharkman84]

The Coalition has slammed Labor’s first home buyer scheme after it emerged more than 51,000 permanent residents have accessed it since 2022.

The figures show around one in five participants in the scheme were not Australian citizens, drawing criticism from Deputy Liberal Leader Jane Hume.

Labor defends non-citizens accessing first home buyer scheme

Jane Hume and Mark Butler have clashed over the ‘privileges’ of permanent residents.

7news.com.au

 

[Sharkman84]

The Coalition has slammed Labor’s first home buyer scheme after it emerged more than 51,000 permanent residents have accessed it since 2022.

The figures show around one in five participants in the scheme were not Australian citizens, drawing criticism from Deputy Liberal Leader Jane Hume.

Labor defends non-citizens accessing first home buyer scheme

Jane Hume and Mark Butler have clashed over the ‘privileges’ of permanent residents.

7news.com.au

I've always been of the belief that only Australian citizens should be allowed to buy property in this country.

This government has totally sold out Australian citizens to chase foreign citizens in an attempt to curry-favour them to secure their vote once they get citizenship.

It's a joke.

 

[Monoethnic Social Club]

I've always been of the belief that only Australian citizens should be allowed to buy property in this country.

This government has totally sold out Australian citizens to chase foreign citizens in an attempt to curry-favour them to secure their vote once they get citizenship.

It's a joke.

I actually agree with you on this.... just not about permanent residents who I feel have every right to see their taxes being used on a federal scheme that benefits them and aids in their transition to full citizenship with all the rights that entails. Even Ginger Braun admitted as such.

Foreign nationals should NOT have a right to own Australian property just like Liberal pollies like Fletcher and Walalce own properties in Italy or Canada.

 

[Quicky]

I've always been of the belief that only Australian citizens should be allowed to buy property in this country.

This government has totally sold out Australian citizens to chase foreign citizens in an attempt to curry-favour them to secure their vote once they get citizenship.

It's a joke.

I agree. Especially in this housing market. It inflates the housing market and hurts people trying to enter it. Both sides of politics need to do better to fix housing affordability.

When you don't have affordable stable housing, or jobs that can support you/your family, what happens? I think this is the root of a lot of social issues atm. Fix that and you'll see a positive impact on other issues like youth crime.

 

[Toebash]

I agree foreign residents shouldn't be able to purchase Australian properties, but surely those with Australian PR should be able to? They live here and pay taxes, and our country would be fucked without them.

 

[Jetsfan]

What if they are proxies, the rules should be as blunt as a hammer

 

[Toebash]

What if they are proxies, the rules should be as blunt as a hammer

Who are you concerned are proxies, and who would they be proxies for?

 

[Keeper66]

I've always been of the belief that only Australian citizens should be allowed to buy property in this country.

This government has totally sold out Australian citizens to chase foreign citizens in an attempt to curry-favour them to secure their vote once they get citizenship.

It's a joke.

Is that you Barnaby?

 

[Sharkman84]

Is that you Barnaby?

Nonsense comment. Canada (which ironically has been under a left-wing government for years) has always had a ban on foreign nationals so what part of my comment do you disagree with? Play the ball.

 

[Sharkman84]

I agree foreign residents shouldn't be able to purchase Australian properties, but surely those with Australian PR should be able to? They live here and pay taxes, and our country would be fucked without them.

No one was talking about permanent residents, I was talking about foreign citizens who are here only on visas.

There's been a lot of hullabaloo in the past few years of people losing out at auctions to foreign investors, the latter should be outright banned from owning property in this country.

 

[Toebash]

No one was talking about permanent residents, I was talking about foreign citizens who are here only on visas.

You said "only Australian citizens", which would exclude permanent residents who don't have Australian citizenship.

 

[Sharkman84]

You said "only Australian citizens", which would exclude permanent residents who don't have Australian citizenship.

Permanent residents are fine but anyone who is not a citizen or permanent resident of this country should be outright banned from being able to buy property in this country.

No idea why this is a controversial topic, Canada who has an even more left-wing government than we do has these measures in place.

 

[Keeper66]

Permanent residents are fine but anyone who is not a citizen or permanent resident of this country should be outright banned from being able to buy property in this country.

No idea why this is a controversial topic, Canada who has an even more left-wing government than we do has these measures in place.

If you are going to make strong assertions then you need to make sure that those assertions reflect what you actually mean to say. As Toebash said, your initial comment said Australian citizens only, which by definition excludes permanent residents. So when you do make a fundamental mistake like this, don’t get further up on your high horse, eat a bit of humble pie instead.
And the Barnaby comment earlier was a reflection on the Beetrooter’s fuck up on the same subject yesterday.

 

[Toebash]

Permanent residents are fine but anyone who is not a citizen or permanent resident of this country should be outright banned from being able to buy property in this country.

No idea why this is a controversial topic, Canada who has an even more left-wing government than we do has these measures in place.

It isn't a controversial topic now that you've explained your original misstatement.

 

[HonestSpursFan]

Permanent residents are fine but anyone who is not a citizen or permanent resident of this country should be outright banned from being able to buy property in this country.

No idea why this is a controversial topic, Canada who has an even more left-wing government than we do has these measures in place.

I would say Canada’s government is similar if not less leftist than ours but I do agree. It’s ridiculous that foreigners can come in and buy all our homes then we wonder why we can’t afford to buy a home.

 

[Toebash]

I would say Canada’s government is similar if not less leftist than ours but I do agree. It’s ridiculous that foreigners can come in and buy all our homes then we wonder why we can’t afford to buy a home.

According to the Register of Foreign Ownership of Australian Assets, about 0.8% of homes are bought be foreigners. It's not very many at all.

By contrast, 20% is owned by investors, which is why the budgetary changes should have a really significant affect on house prices and the ability of working Australians to buy a home.

 

[Sharkman84]

 

[Toebash]

Transgender rights are such a minor side issue, I don't understand why they get so much fucking airtime.

With that said, I wonder what the Greens do in, say, 10 years if we continue to make such rapid progress on the energy transition. Their raison d'etre as a party is more or less gone.

 

[HonestSpursFan]

Transgender rights are such a minor side issue, I don't understand why they get so much fucking airtime.

It depends on what “rights” are defined as. Pretty much everyone agrees they should be allowed to be trans, that I consider a right. The right to change their birth certificate is a right. The right to be protected from discrimination is a right. The right for trans women (biological men) to play in women’s sports and use women’s spaces is NOT. Letting under 16s undergo surgery is NOT. Identifying as an animal is NOT.

With that said, I wonder what the Greens do in, say, 10 years if we continue to make such rapid progress on the energy transition. Their raison d'etre as a party is more or less gone.

Yeah I think now that climate change is a mainstream issue people don’t really care for the Greens anymore. They’re too extreme and their social policies are just nonsense, plus foreign policy isn’t really at the forefront of our minds. Labor have adopted many of the Greens’ policies and made them slightly less insane so Greens voters switch to Labor over an incompetent Greens that prefer to focus on wedge issues like pronouns and protests for Palestine.

The absolute centre of Australian politics, where most Australians (Labor and Coalition voters) sit, is beginning to disappear unfortunately. Most people are moderates but the parties don’t realise that. America is different because there’s much more deep political division between people even if there’s still a lot of swing voters, moderates and centrists. Most Republicans are less conservative than Republican politicians but they’re often not too far off.

 

[LFC]

It depends on what “rights” are defined as. Pretty much everyone agrees they should be allowed to be trans, that I consider a right. The right to change their birth certificate is a right. The right to be protected from discrimination is a right. The right for trans women (biological men) to play in women’s sports and use women’s spaces is NOT. Letting under 16s undergo surgery is NOT. Identifying as an animal is NOT.


Yeah I think now that climate change is a mainstream issue people don’t really care for the Greens anymore. They’re too extreme and their social policies are just nonsense, plus foreign policy isn’t really at the forefront of our minds. Labor have adopted many of the Greens’ policies and made them slightly less insane so Greens voters switch to Labor over an incompetent Greens that prefer to focus on wedge issues like pronouns and protests for Palestine.

The absolute centre of Australian politics, where most Australians (Labor and Coalition voters) sit, is beginning to disappear unfortunately. Most people are moderates but the parties don’t realise that. America is different because there’s much more deep political division between people even if there’s still a lot of swing voters, moderates and centrists. Most Republicans are less conservative than Republican politicians but they’re often not too far off.

HSF well said overall agree !

And on the America mention - despite Trumps drive to slow or control Chinas forward growth they got no hope.
It’s become the super power whether anybody likes it or not.
The tech and advancements are in their hands and it’s only just started showing fruition and the massive Exporting globally they have it under their control.