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ALM TV Ratings

Exactly, and you dont even have to go to something as commercially succesful as the EPL either. Something is broken if 2 milion people clearly enjoy a sport enough to pay for it but dont want to watch it live.. at least some of them..

The majority of people might just have enough interest to watch on tv but not enough to be there in person....

I subscribe to the World Snooker Tour app which gives me coverage of all the snooker tournaments played around the world.

I quite like watching it on tv but I wouldn't dream of going to watch it at a venue....haven't got enough interest.

Same with tennis. I'll watch on tv but couldn't be arsed attending a day at the tennis courts.
 
The majority of people might just have enough interest to watch on tv but not enough to be there in person....

I subscribe to the World Snooker Tour app which gives me coverage of all the snooker tournaments played around the world.

I quite like watching it on tv but I wouldn't dream of going to watch it at a venue....haven't got enough interest.

Same with tennis. I'll watch on tv but couldn't be arsed attending a day at the tennis courts.
Fair point, but I feel football would be a bit different of an experience to both of these sports. I mean clearly there IS an inteerst inw atching live soccer, look at Socceroos and MAtildas matches or when a visitng Eurosnob team sell jerseys and kicks Sherrins on the MCG... people flock it in droves...
 
Cost of living has exploded over recent years, it's so cheap just to get a whole season on P+ for $60 on sale, we should get accustomed to these crowd sizes and have stadia to match. This is where NBL will do well in this climate. I used to think the "highest ever ratings/subscribers" posts about P+ were rubbish, but it actually makes sense.
cost of living I agree effects consumables/rents/mortgagaes/bills yet I saw on the news here in Syd the swans game at the SCG had 40K on Sunday.....
NRL crowds I'm sure Sutho could advise are not effected.
People still spend even at the worst times.
 
Fair point, but I feel football would be a bit different of an experience to both of these sports. I mean clearly there IS an inteerst inw atching live soccer, look at Socceroos and MAtildas matches or when a visitng Eurosnob team sell jerseys and kicks Sherrins on the MCG... people flock it in droves...

True...

Football in Australia is really interesting but can be strange in some ways too....

the "event" factor in Australian soccer is massive. When the Matildas or Socceroos play, or when a Premier League or Serie A giant rolls into town for pre season, it’s treated as a "must-be-there" cultural moment rather than just a standard game!

The "Eurosnob" phenomenon you mentioned is a fascinating bit of sports psychology. It proves the appetite for the quality and prestige of the game is high, even if that doesn't always translate to the weekly grind of the local domestic league.

Australia has a very high concentration of "event fans." The MCG selling out for a friendly between two European clubs suggests that people are often chasing the spectacle and the chance to see world-class stars in the flesh. It’s less about a deep-seated tribal loyalty to the visiting team and more about not wanting to miss the biggest show in town.

The Matildas and Socceroos tap into something the domestic leagues struggle to replicate: Nationalism. * The Matildas, particularly have become "Australia’s team" in a way that transcends the sport itself.

And it’s always a bit of a laugh seeing a world-class midfielder from Man United or Juventus try to roost a Sherrin, but it highlights the crossover. There is a huge segment of the population that loves AFL or NRL but also appreciates the technical brilliance of soccer. The challenge for the sport in Australia has always been converting that "casual appreciation" into "seasonal commitment"....

If the A-League could capture even 20% of that "Eurosnob" or "National Team" energy on a weekly basis, the landscape would look completely different. It seems the interest is clearly there; it's just currently channeled into these massive, isolated peaks rather than a steady week-to-week plateau.

It’s one of those "million-dollar questions" that sports administrators in Australia have been losing sleep over for decades. If there were an easy fix, the stadiums would probably already be full every weekend.

I haven't got any real answers I'm afraid!

If I did I'd be the A-League's CEO on $300K pa! 🤣
 
Exactly, and you dont even have to go to something as commercially succesful as the EPL either. Something is broken if 2 milion people clearly enjoy a sport enough to pay for it but dont want to watch it live.. at least some of them..
I've mentioned it before on one of these threads, but one thing I've noticed (anecdotally), is that the younger generation hasn't followed in the footsteps of the previous generation. The young people going to games back when the A-League started are all now in their 40s/50s, they have kids, mortgages, bad backs, etc. They'll still go to games, but probably not as much as they'd like to. The 20 somethings haven't filled that gap in enough numbers. 20 years ago the A-league was new and exciting. Now it's kinda stale and doesn't have the pulling power it had 2 decades ago. Young people are also way more broke than we were and also have the knowledge that they have to be a bit more conservative with the money that they do have. Going to every home game isn't really an option for most young people.
 
I've mentioned it before on one of these threads, but one thing I've noticed (anecdotally), is that the younger generation hasn't followed in the footsteps of the previous generation. The young people going to games back when the A-League started are all now in their 40s/50s, they have kids, mortgages, bad backs, etc. They'll still go to games, but probably not as much as they'd like to. The 20 somethings haven't filled that gap in enough numbers. 20 years ago the A-league was new and exciting. Now it's kinda stale and doesn't have the pulling power it had 2 decades ago. Young people are also way more broke than we were and also have the knowledge that they have to be a bit more conservative with the money that they do have. Going to every home game isn't really an option for most young people.
I get what you are saying but the AFL an NRL dont seem to be having the same sort of problem..... Plenty of kids in their stands week in week out. Why can THEY do tribalism yet WE don't allow ourselves too?
 
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I would question this and would have hurrumphed 1-2 years ago but now, looking at my families use, you are spot on.. The odd news or live sport is pretty much the only time the telly is used for FTA, everything else is streaming.

This begs the MAIN question though, if Paramount has 2 million subscribers WHY are only 3-5,000 people attending Aleague matches live?
“WHY are only 3-5,000 people attending Aleague matches live at Wellington Phoenix, Central Coast Mariners, and MacArthur?” (Averages: 5,667, 5104, 4193. All others in the 6,624-13,120 range).
 
Small tweaking of kick-off times, a re-think on some of the stadium strategies and a few commentator changes could something that improves the A-League as a TV production andcget more eyes on screens.

I just can’t understand how someone listened to Phil Moss speak, then heard him commentate, and then thought “yep here’s our man to get the fans excited about the game they’re watching” and then gave him a job in coms.
 
Those numbers for averages crowd wise for ALM is 2nd lowest and they don’t included NZ gates just Australian venues which goes to shows how bad things really are. ALM can’t even compete against AFLW or WNRL let alone Netball and WBBL FTA viewing numbers.
They do include the NZ Gates.
 
Those numbers for averages crowd wise for ALM is 2nd lowest and they don’t included NZ gates just Australian venues which goes to shows how bad things really are. ALM can’t even compete against AFLW or WNRL let alone Netball and WBBL.

They do include the NZ Gates.
It's done by AusStadiums so I figure NZ gates are not counted.
 
Brisbane Roar's average is 6,624 which is better than I thought it would be this season.

I honestly expected their average attendance to fall.
 
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