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Socceroos vs Canada/USA Oct 25

Pasquali said:
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Hard to know what to make of this squad. I had expected to only see changes around the edges of the squad which appears to be the case. I would expect the same in November, probably want to maintain the core selections and see who fits in around that. The selection of the fringe guys is a bit odd.
Is Geria he a core guy for Popa? On the outer a club level for who knows what reason. Did play a full 90 recently.
Arzani is struggling for minutes, probably the strangest selection.
Robertson is right out of the blue. So many questions about this from club level to international. Why isn't he playing for Cardiff, not a minute, why did he now return for Aus?
Good to have a look at DAgostino I suppose, just back and playing now. Was Sapsford a better pick in this spot?
 
Somebloke said:
If someone on here had said a week ago that Segacic wouldn’t get picked and Robertson would no one would have believed them. It seemed as if he was heading towards a Peru cap.
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Perplexing would be the word I’d use.

I don’t mind the selection of Geria, great leadership and football experience.

Arzani is a weird one, not playing regularly in the League, but scoring a hat-trick against an amateur side in the cup winning 15-0 is clearly enough for Popa these days…

Mental that out of nowhere Popa has put the feelers out to Robbo… he’s accepted the call-up off the back of zero minutes for Cardiff in LEAGUE ONE. Great if he was playing regularly, but this just screams of desperation on Robbos part and a bit of desperation on our part to get him tied down, on the back of no form, and some agent spin in the wake of the Peru news.

Honestly I’d preferred to have seen Kalik get another look.
 
juneof86 said:
Thanks grazorblade.

I'm an Ipswich Town supporter and Segecic was lively for Pompey when we met last weekend. I'll be in Montreal and looking forward to a good, competitive match. I am always wishing you well at the World Cup, so I figured I'd sign up here since I've been lurking for years.
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Welcome. Enjoy the game in Montreal (y)
 
The Good:
  • Robertsons return. Didn't deserve it on club form but definitely glad to see him back in the fold. Great to see someone with his technical qualities as an option
  • Devlins return. Deserved it on form. Tactically good to have a midfield option who can man mark or be used late to shut a game out.
The Bad:
  • No Luongo is absolute madness from Popovic. He should be starting.
  • No Sapsford. Should be ahead of Duke. On form should be ahead of Daggers. No slight on Daggers, i'm ok to see his inclusion, even if its early into his return from injury.

The Ugly:
  • Duke, Hrustic and Arzani are kinda pointless for various reasons. Be it club absence or being past it with better options ahead.

I'm assuming Segecic omission is a deal with player and club rather than a huge mistake. If its a straight omission it'd be non-sense.
 
Seems Popa is casting a wide net .... as many have posted in the world cup squad thread that we have 3 to 4 players for every position.

IMO Bos & Jackson are the only players on the plane to the WC..... no one else can assume they are going ....

I actually can't think of a time when an Australian coach has had this much talent available.... huge credit to unnamed coaches over the past say 20 to 25 years who have developed the talent we have and if we look at the under 20 side they appear to continue the improvement cycle...
 
Quicky said:
The Good:
  • Robertsons return. Didn't deserve it on club form but definitely glad to see him back in the fold. Great to see someone with his technical qualities as an option
  • Devlins return. Deserved it on form. Tactically good to have a midfield option who can man mark or be used late to shut a game out.
The Bad:
  • No Luongo is absolute madness from Popovic. He should be starting.
  • No Sapsford. Should be ahead of Duke. On form should be ahead of Daggers. No slight on Daggers, i'm ok to see his inclusion, even if its early into his return from injury.

The Ugly:
  • Duke, Hrustic and Arzani are kinda pointless for various reasons. Be it club absence or being past it with better options ahead.
I'm assuming Segecic omission is a deal with player and club rather than a huge mistake. If it’s a straight omission it'd be non-sense.
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Robertson, Arzani, and Matthews are not playing for their clubs at all so as much as much as they are great talents that should be in the squad, this should be only if they are playing regular minutes with their clubs.

Sapsford definitely deserves to be in ahead of Duke and Luongo should be selected, but then who do you drop from midfield? Delvin deserves his selection on form.
 
Cunningstunt said:
Hard to know what to make of this squad. I had expected to only see changes around the edges of the squad which appears to be the case. I would expect the same in November, probably want to maintain the core selections and see who fits in around that. The selection of the fringe guys is a bit odd.
Is Geria he a core guy for Popa? On the outer a club level for who knows what reason. Did play a full 90 recently.
Arzani is struggling for minutes, probably the strangest selection.
Robertson is right out of the blue. So many questions about this from club level to international. Why isn't he playing for Cardiff, not a minute, why did he now return for Aus?
Good to have a look at DAgostino I suppose, just back and playing now. Was Sapsford a better pick in this spot?
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You ask some good questions. Probably only Popovic and his team can answer them. I'm not fussed with changes to the squad. The windows in Sept and Oct (and maybe even the Nov one) should be about giving the fringe players a chance to show what they can do before we pretty much get the final squad together in March. Not sure about Robertson. Have the issues that made him unavailable during the qualifiers been resolved or is it just that this is a friendly window?
 
Quicky said:
The Ugly:
  • Duke, Hrustic and Arzani are kinda pointless for various reasons. Be it club absence or being past it with better options ahead.

I'm assuming Segecic omission is a deal with player and club rather than a huge mistake. If its a straight omission it'd be non-sense.
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Duke's selection surprised me. We know what he can do, he is familiar with how Popovic likes to play and can fit back in easily enough if required. I think at this stage we should be giving a few more fringe players a go. Similar with Hrustic. Arzani seems to get brought back on a semi regular basis but he has never got back to anywhere near the form he had before his injury.
 
Will be interesting to hear from Popa in the next squad announcement press conference on how the tide has turned relating to Robertson. If he can start playing regularly again he can certainly add that creativity we need.

Also I get Duke is a safe pick, and Popa probably feels a little indebted to him for his performance in the Saudi game, but geez surely we've moved on now, especially with some of the younger strikers coming through in Botic and Sapsford. On the bright side at least Popa didn't revert back to Brattan and Caceras :rolleyes:
 
Quicky said:
The Good:
  • Robertsons return. Didn't deserve it on club form but definitely glad to see him back in the fold. Great to see someone with his technical qualities as an option
  • Devlins return. Deserved it on form. Tactically good to have a midfield option who can man mark or be used late to shut a game out.
The Bad:
  • No Luongo is absolute madness from Popovic. He should be starting.
  • No Sapsford. Should be ahead of Duke. On form should be ahead of Daggers. No slight on Daggers, i'm ok to see his inclusion, even if its early into his return from injury.

The Ugly:
  • Duke, Hrustic and Arzani are kinda pointless for various reasons. Be it club absence or being past it with better options ahead.

I'm assuming Segecic omission is a deal with player and club rather than a huge mistake. If its a straight omission it'd be non-sense.
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Mixed thoughts. Positive that Robertson is seemingly in the fold again but would have picked Luongo. Similarly would have selected Sapsford and Italiano in this window rather than some of these guys that aren't getting club minutes. Would be nice to have a short list of 33-35 players by the end of the year
 
Somebloke said:
If someone on here had said a week ago that Segacic wouldn’t get picked and Robertson would no one would have believed them. It seemed as if he was heading towards a Peru cap.
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Getting really disillusioned with Popovic in all honesty.

If Segecic ends up choosing Croatia like Triantis did with Greece then Popovic can fuck right off.
 
These are the players from the last squad that missed out: Noah Botic, Tom Glover, Jack Iredale, Anthony Kalik, Nicolas Milanovic, Adrian Segecic, Samuel Silvera and Ryan Teague.
In comes Arzani, Daggers, Delvin, Duke, Geria, Karacic, Matthews, Robertson, and Ryan.
Segecic clearly has a niggle and has been contacted by management. Milanovic hasn’t been playing much and Silvera is out of form.
With the exception of Duke, and the lack of game time for Arzani, Geria, Matthews, and Robertson, I’d argue that the players brought in are better, in-form players.
 
scooterw said:
Will be interesting to hear from Popa in the next squad announcement press conference on how the tide has turned relating to Robertson. If he can start playing regularly again he can certainly add that creativity we need.

Also I get Duke is a safe pick, and Popa probably feels a little indebted to him for his performance in the Saudi game, but geez surely we've moved on now, especially with some of the younger strikers coming through in Botic and Sapsford. On the bright side at least Popa didn't revert back to Brattan and Caceras :rolleyes:
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Don’t get too comfortable, as soon as the A League gets going again I have strong suspicions that Caceres will be back. Unfortunately.

And why Duke has been recalled is absolutely beyond me. As I said yesterday in another thread, his time was up at least 2 years ago.
 
Sharkman84 said:
Popovic is really doing jobs for the boys here.

Arzani over Segecic is a fucking joke.
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Before the squad was announced Segecic knew he was not selected, so clearly he had been contacted by management. He mentioned “getting his body right” so he seems to have a niggle. I like the squad. The ones who probably should have been selected on form are Sapsford and Luongo instead of Duke and Robertson. Duke is a known quantity in the twilight of his career, though Robertson’s selection will please some people that want him locked in with caps.
 
Kitwally said:
Before the squad was announced Segecic knew he was not selected, so clearly he had been contacted by management. He mentioned “getting his body right” so he seems to have a niggle. I like the squad. The ones who probably should have been selected on form are Sapsford and Luongo instead of Duke and Robertson. Duke is a known quantity in the twilight of his career, though Robertson’s selection will please some people that want him locked in with caps.
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Yep, this is how I saw it as well, Segecic already knew he was not selected, so in contact with Popa.
Robertson is interesting, Duke well I just don't understand, Maybe it's a farewell for his services.
 
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