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[zimbos05]

Well guess what? Nothing is ever going to be done if the world just sits there and watches. It's a slow rot.

Those in Venezuela are so resigned to their fate and a third of the population who left would never return until the regime is gone.

You are missing the point. What we witnessed was live Imperialism. It was a coup that goes against international law. If anything, Trump and his administration are criminals under International law. It would be all well and good if they took Maduro and left.

They did not. They actively have said, "we are in charge of the oil now, it is ours, not yours. We also want this person as president, and if you don't, we'll take you out too"

That is the issue, not the removal of Maduro.

You are also conveniently ignoring the Venezuelans who are against this because they know what it represents. All this talk of stopping the drugs and criminals is false. It's like all those WMD they found in Iraq...

 

[tsf]

One of the best things I have heard was a friend's dad who lived under communism. He said

"You know what the difference was between us and you? At least we knew we weren't free, but you think you are". Always stuck with me.

If you break it down, Trump governs for the 1%, and is bad as Maduro. If not worse.

 

[Muz]

This is only about oil

The other day the argument for people supporting palestine was 'what about the genocide in sudan' etc.

Well what about the leaders that are even worse in a 100 countries? Oh they don't have oil.

I doubt this will end up any different long term than any other country theyve done it to.

The gloves are off and anyone can just take any leader now without presenting a case in regards to international law?

Exactly. China is sitting here watching all this and how the US is bullying the Ukraine and saying to themselves, we're taking Taiwan and, since anything goes these days, who's going to stop us.

Fuck the US. Fuck Russia and fuck Israel.

 

[Muz]

Anyone defending the US is a fucking moron.

 

[Muz]

They would have seen more of the oil under the old regime than they will of the new one now.

At the end of the day, the key thing is that what has happened goes against International Law. It was a coup carried out by a foreign government. If they can do it there, it sets a precedent to do it anywhere. Those of you celebrating Maduro gone (not a supporter of him) are supporting a foreign entity being able to pillage and steal from a sovereign nation, without any accountability or rule of law upheld.

This Venezuelan bullshit has all but guaranteed Taiwan being 'rejoined with the motherland' next year.

 

[Monoethnic Social Club]

So because they didn't level the country, it's fine?

What has happened is Imperialism. It's colonialism in front of our eyes. They literally said, "The US will control the country and the Oil fields". That there tells you everything. It had nothing to do with Maduro, and everything to do with controlling the money for themselves. The people will not see it.


The US want María Corina Machado as president. They have even hinted that if she isn't in, then they will come back and make sure of it. She is a strong Zionist supporter who has already said that she plans on moving the Venezuelan embassy to Jerusalem and supporting Israel. As we all know, the US are Israel puppets so Israel financially gains from this.

Not so sure about "wanting" Machado so much as controlling her... as for US being Israel puppets.... again I suggest it may be the other way around... you assign them too much advocacy in the world due to your hatred. 15-20 million people really DON'T hold that much power, if the orange retard pulled his favour away from Tel Aviv for more than a few weeks Isreal will be wiped off the face of the earth.

 

[Monoethnic Social Club]

There have been gripes about things needed to be done in so many other countries, but nothing was. The reason being, those countries don't have oil.

Yes, people wanted something done, but not a foreign entity coming in, staging a coup, and then stealing all the resources for themselves.

Agreed, bombing Iran to prevent nuclear war was probably a bullshit excuse but at least it was with a stated aim and NO blatant excuse to subsequently install a new government afterwards eh? heheheheh

The world has changed, its dog eat dog again.... we NEVER learn .... Start preparing your kids for the draft (or to dodge it depending on your beliefs/convictions)

 

[Monoethnic Social Club]

Anyone defending the US is a fucking moron.

Enough with the polarizing bullshit Muz.... is everyone that disagrees with you a moron?

The US, in their defence, HAD to make this move, its not even a Trump vs the Leftards thing ... Kamala would have had to do the same.

The petro-dollar is secure for another decade at least, can you imagine the US defaulting on its trillion a month interest?

Will it lead to war, probably, but sometimes these things have to play out to clear to tension...

 

[Monoethnic Social Club]

Exactly. China is sitting here watching all this and how the US is bullying the Ukraine and saying to themselves, we're taking Taiwan and, since anything goes these days, who's going to stop us.

Fuck the US. Fuck Russia and fuck Israel.

I doubt China will move on Taiwan it has no need to... it takes away a strategic "trigger point threat" in the Pacific... If they take over the island or if North Korea takes over South Korea for example, who or what can they use as a threat when playing the diplomacy game?

 

[zimbos05]

Not so sure about "wanting" Machado so much as controlling her... as for US being Israel puppets.... again I suggest it may be the other way around... you assign them too much advocacy in the world due to your hatred. 15-20 million people really DON'T hold that much power, if the orange retard pulled his favour away from Tel Aviv for more than a few weeks Isreal will be wiped off the face of the earth.

What you've described is exactly the definition of puppet. The US are so beholden to Israel that they can't think for themselves and do their own thing. They give them close to $4bn a year. They allow AIPAC to sit in on their decision making and influence it.

It's not hatred at all. I just understand history and have a dislike for Zionism, genocide, imperialism, nationalism, and fascism.

Agreed, bombing Iran to prevent nuclear war was probably a bullshit excuse but at least it was with a stated aim and NO blatant excuse to subsequently install a new government afterwards eh? heheheheh

The world has changed, its dog eat dog again.... we NEVER learn .... Start preparing your kids for the draft (or to dodge it depending on your beliefs/convictions)

That last sentence is right, we never learn from history. In saying that, it seems to be one side making the mistake of the past.

 

[Monoethnic Social Club]

What you've described is exactly the definition of puppet. The US are so beholden to Israel that they can't think for themselves and do their own thing. They give them close to $4bn a year. They allow AIPAC to sit in on their decision making and influence it.

It's not hatred at all. I just understand history and have a dislike for Zionism, genocide, imperialism, nationalism, and fascism.


That last sentence is right, we never learn from history. In saying that, it seems to be one side making the mistake of the past.

No, I think Europe is finally starting to wake up to harsh realities there will NOT be a repeat of 1453. The coming wars (at least I think) will NOT be about which bullshit faction is right or wrong... but a realignment based on values of human justice and access to dwindling resources... Alot of old allies are going to have to learn to get along and if anything nationalism (and perhaps even fascism) is going to be the driver for a little while... Im not saying this is what I wish mind you, just what the current reality seems to be pulling us towards...

As for understanding history, sure you have made your views against Zionisjm and Judaism clear, what does your faith tell you about the genocide of Christians both past and current?

Persecution of Christians 'coming close to genocide' in Middle East – report

Millions uprooted from homes, says UK-commissioned report, with many jailed and killed

www.theguardian.com

 

[zimbos05]

No, I think Europe is finally starting to wake up to harsh realities there will NOT be a repeat of 1453. The coming wars (at least I think) will NOT be about which bullshit faction is right or wrong... but a realignment based on values of human justice and access to dwindling resources... Alot of old allies are going to have to learn to get along and if anything nationalism (and perhaps even fascism) is going to be the driver for a little while... Im not saying this is what I wish mind you, just what the current reality seems to be pulling us towards...

As for understanding history, sure you have made your views against Zionisjm and Judaism clear, what does your faith tell you about the genocide of Christians both past and current?

Persecution of Christians 'coming close to genocide' in Middle East – report

Millions uprooted from homes, says UK-commissioned report, with many jailed and killed

www.theguardian.com

If you're going to be disingenuous, then there is not point in having a conversation with you.

"if anyone killed a person… it would be as if he killed all mankind; and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind"

 

[tsf]

anyone who supports the US in their actions here cannot sook if the Chinese come for our resources, all fair game now.

 

[Muz]

anyone who supports the US in their actions here cannot sook if the Chinese come for our resources, all fair game now.

Yeah bang on. It's impossible to defend the US and yet there are people here saying they had no choice.

But then again there are people that think levelling a country and killing 65000 people is just fine and dandy because, you know, they're brown and the wrong religion.

 

[tsf]

The US, in their defence, HAD to make this move,

So why does he also need to attack Colombia? Mexico? Greenland ?

All ones he's threatening.

Are we headed for the first world cup where a co-host is bombing the other co-host....because tantrum boy cant handle his little ego. He doesn't like the Colombian president because he stands up to him.

Also what happened to all these 'Trump is the president of peace, no war blah blah' that were here,

Also, if a right wing puppet is put in, we know how that story finishes in latin america. Expect 100s of thoussands more refugess trying to get to the states.

 

[tsf]

Yeah bang on. It's impossible to defend the US and yet there are people here saying they had no choice.

But then again there are people that think levelling a country and killing 65000 people is just fine and dandy because, you know, they're brown and the wrong religion.

Literally any country can now make that excuse. "We needed the resources'

As I said earlier, our government is taking ours off the people, with little compensation for us. Maybe the Chinese can come in, take it and do a deal with us folks at the bottom, as people are suggesting the USA does in dandy fantasy land.

 

[tsf]

Also, it's as much about gold as oil. Which is just plain obscene greed.

 

[zimbos05]

Also, it's as much about gold as oil. Which is just plain obscene greed.

At this point, it's pointless. The delusion is so insane, Trump can institute Prima Nocta and the people would accept it. He could declare the first Monday of every month as "National Government Take $1000 from every family" and they would just happily give it.

 

[tsf]

At this point, it's pointless. The delusion is so insane, Trump can institute Prima Nocta and the people would accept it. He could declare the first Monday of every month as "National Government Take $1000 from every family" and they would just happily give it

lol, was talking to friends this morning from latin america - colombians, bolivians and brazilians - they all said something very similar.

 

[tsf]

Let's not forget this is a guy that can sell the trump bible. They'd literally buy anything off him.