World news and politics.

[Football us life]

Yes and no. ABC investigations on child care abuse for example is not politically motivated and great journalism you'd have to agree. 90% of what's on the ABC front page is good journalism without an agenda. (And them and the The Guardian are just about the only 2 you see doing investigative stuff in Australia. Murdoch sure as hell ain't. Defund the ABC and what's left? News.com.au and Sky FFS?!)

Just have a scroll through any of those stories from the ABC and tell me there isn't good journalism going on. Beats getting your 'facts' from a tik-tokker.

ABC News & Headlines – Australian Broadcasting Corporation

Follow the latest headlines from ABC News, Australia's most trusted media source, with live events, audio and on-demand video from the national broadcaster.

www.abc.net.au

Political reporting you may have a case but I saw Ita Buttrose once say they get emails and letters from just about any interview of a politician from both sides complaining of bias which patently can't be true.

Most public broadcaster's that run a large newsroom or news service like the ABC or BBC are the same. Whether journalists are poltically aligned with one side of politics or not.

Most if not all journalists want their work to have real newsworthy relevance and not picked apart by those who are construed to be in political opposition....

Ideally news media should be unbiased. But I’m not sure where you can find a reporter withour beliefs.

Reporters are human. Humans, especially those in the midst of these political tsunami's, have beliefs that naturally influence what details they consider important for their audience to know, so each one reports any incident from a different point of view.

Having said that, we also know that every media has it's core audience. It’s a minefield in that sense....

 

[Muz]

Forgot to add the Sydney Morning Herald. https://www.smh.com.au/

Have a scroll through the stories there and compare them to the Herald Sun, The Daily Telegraph or worst of all Sky News.

There's plenty of good journalism but good journalism doesn't get clicks like this rubbish does.

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/reality-tv/viewers-fume-over-cruel-big-brother-rankings-as-contestant-breaks-down-onair/news-story/a1d7c61b31d20052b437fbe2ea14d7f0

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/reality-tv/shameless-fans-shocked-over-xrated-love-island-moment/news-story/7cbf661435a24d73de2c5be2de31fdb5

 

[Muz]

Most public broadcaster's that run a large newsroom or news service like the ABC or BBC are the same. Whether journalists are poltically aligned with one side of politics or not.

Most if not all journalists want their work to have real newsworthy relevance and not picked apart by those who are construed to be in political opposition....

Which is why I object to people saying all journalists are fucked and there's no good journalism anymore.

 

[Football us life]

Which is why I object to people saying all journalists are fucked and there's no good journalism anymore.

Me too...

I'm shelling out for.all sorts of news subscriptions each month. Because I generally speaking trust what Im reading....

 

[tsf]

Which is why I object to people saying all journalists are fucked and there's no good journalism anymore.

Nick McKenzie from The Age is outstanding - and has no bias that is visible. He goes after anyone.

 

[Muz]

Nick McKenzie from The Age is outstanding - and has no bias that is visible. He goes after anyone.

The Age and the SMH were Fairfax, Nine now. It seems, for the time being, they've kept their editorial independence.

 

[Football us life]

The entire crux if the issue is that everyone knows Trump is a fruitcake, most people with half a brain know he's a baddie, so why bother to over emphasis it by splicing two different news clips together just to prove the point....

 

[erogenouszone]

Having said that, we also know that every media has it's core audience. It’s a minefield in that sense....

There is an old saying that originated from newspaper but applies to everything these says. Let your readers write your paper for you.

 

[Football us life]

There is an old saying that originated from newspaper but applies to everything these says. Let your readers write your paper for you.

So true....

I get a digital version of the New York Times International edition each day. I like it for it's global outlook and it's opinion columns.

I often wonder if the MAGA people are buying it?

Err Nup!! Not a chance!!

 

[tsf]

So true....

I get a digital version of the New York Times International edition each day. I like it for it's global outlook and it's opinion columns.

I often wonder if the MAGA people are buying it?

Err Nup!! Not a chance!!

But they always use '#1 NY Times best seller' or the like when promoting their shit

 

[JS96]

Nick McKenzie from The Age is outstanding - and has no bias that is visible. He goes after anyone.

Journalists make mistakes too but why am I reading he lost a defamation case about some financial people. The analysis states that he's part of a group of biased investigators who'll pick and choose what he doesn't like an investigate it. Hardly non biased. Just another 'journalist' using media protection to hunt the opposite side.

Then there are the courts who'll rule 'in the highest probability ' in their favour and we know judges never make mistakes. Well is it of isn't it? The evidence was presented. Make a judgement.

 

[tsf]

Journalists make mistakes too but why am I reading he lost a defamation case about some financial people. The analysis states that he's part of a group of biased investigators who'll pick and choose what he doesn't like an investigate it. Hardly non biased. Just another 'journalist' using media protection to hunt the opposite side.

Then there are the courts who'll rule 'in the highest probability ' in their favour and we know judges never make mistakes. Well is it of isn't it? The evidence was presented. Make a judgement.

So because he went after criminal financial people he is biased? I am not following you?

Are you talking about the mafia boss that sued him for defamation? The only journalist with balls to go after him in Italy? (mafia guy didnt win it)

Nick McKenzie - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

can you point to what you are talking about?

 

[JS96]

So because he went after criminal financial people he is biased? I am not following you?

Are you talking about the mafia boss that sued him for defamation? The only journalist with balls to go after him in Italy? (mafia guy didnt win it)

Nick McKenzie - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

can you point to what you are talking about?

Peter Schiff is the case I'm referring to.

 

[tsf]

Peter Schiff is the case I'm referring to.

Ok can you expand on that? I’m struggling to understand what about it makes him biased? He’s an investigative journalists that goes after all sides of politics.

 

[erogenouszone]

So true....

I get a digital version of the New York Times International edition each day. I like it for it's global outlook and it's opinion columns.

I often wonder if the MAGA people are buying it?

Err Nup!! Not a chance!!

They're all watching Fox News I imagine, which is by far the number one channel in America, owned by our very own Rupie of course.

 

[Football us life]

They're all watching Fox News I imagine, which is by far the number one channel in America, owned by our very own Rupie of course.

I think even Fox News is too left wing for them these days....

It's more likely Alt-right You Tube conspiracy channels like Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson and Ben Shapiro.....

Weird shit.....

 

[Muz]

The entire crux if the issue is that everyone knows Trump is a fruitcake, most people with half a brain know he's a baddie, so why bother to over emphasis it by splicing two different news clips together just to prove the point....

The irony of course is what they spliced together actually happened.

 

[Football us life]

The irony of course is what they spliced together actually happened.

The two sections of the speech that were edited together were more than 50 minutes apart.

Trump is now threatening to sue the BBC for US$1billion for defamation and reputational harm.....

I think that Trump would need to prove three major components - that the content published was factually false in a way that was legally defamatory, that he suffered actual reputational harm due to the false and defamatory coverage and that the BBC knew it was false and or recklessly disregarded the truth and acted with "actual malice".....

He can't bring a lawsuit in the UK because there is a 1nyear limitation or deadline to sue for defamation and that has already passed. The documentary was aired in October 2024.

But he can in his home state of Florida in the US as the deadline is 2 years and where he has legal residency.

US$1billion?? I mean is not uncommon for U.S plaintiffs to file eye-popping damages claims as a play for leverage or an opening bid for settlement talks so I think that he's looking for that.

He's also suing the New York Times for US$15billion after refilling an amended lawsuit against them. Same thing...

 

[Muz]

The two sections of the speech that were edited together were more than 50 minutes apart.

Trump is now threatening to sue the BBC for US$1billion for defamation and reputational harm.....

I think that Trump would need to prove three major components - that the content published was factually false in a way that was legally defamatory, that he suffered actual reputational harm due to the false and defamatory coverage and that the BBC knew it was false and or recklessly disregarded the truth and acted with "actual malice".....

He can't bring a lawsuit in the UK because there is a 1nyear limitation or deadline to sue for defamation and that has already passed. The documentary was aired in October 2024.

But he can in his home state of Florida in the US as the deadline is 2 years and where he has legal residency.

US$1billion?? I mean is not uncommon for U.S plaintiffs to file eye-popping damages claims as a play for leverage or an opening bid for settlement talks so I think that he's looking for that.

He's also suing the New York Times for US$15billion after refilling an amended lawsuit against them. Same thing...

I know what happened, I'm commenting on the fact it was ironic that what they spliced together actually happened for real.

 

[Football us life]

I know what happened, I'm commenting on the fact it was ironic that what they spliced together actually happened for real.

Yeah...sorry get yer..