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[Monoethnic Social Club]

It's a pointless exercise bringing people into an English speaking country with little to no English skills, its a nonsense.

"its a nonsense" ... indeed it is.

 

[Sharkman84]

"its a nonsense" ... indeed it is.

Glad you agree, your cherry-picking of my statement wasn't needed.

As I said bringing people with little to no English into an English speaking country like Australia is a complete and total nonsense.

 

[Muz]

I concede we are one of the lowest taxing nations in the world but the taxes we pay in this country are ridiculous.

Well this is just a contradictory sentence from start to finish.

We don't pay a lot BUT they're ridiculous.

 

[Muz]

A socialist or communist system like in Eastern Europe in the mid to late 20th century or North Korea & Cuba isn't the answer either.

Who said it was?

 

[Muz]

Enough of the sarcasm mate.

You sook when I give it you but you only got back what you gave me.

I'm not sooking. I am however noting you're tying yourself into knots because for once in your life you're not sitting in an echo chamber and getting pushback.

 

[tsf]

It's a pointless exercise bringing people into an English speaking country with little to no English skills, its a nonsense.

The irony here is I read this in the thickest old school italian accent

 

[tsf]

Sharkman, it appears that a lot of what you say and advocate for when you break it down, falls well into line with Socialism.

Granted, some doesn't but a lot does. Maybe you're more of a moderate, or dare I say 'lefty' than you're letting on.

 

[erogenouszone]

There's enough money in this country from the country's national resources to build a sovereign wealth fund

Sovereign wealth funds ( Norway, Saudi Arabia, Qatar )tend to be built on the back of massive fossil fuel resources ( oil, gas,coal ).

Local and international multinationals own it all, pay no tax, keep the profits & then trickle some down to shareholders. So you're saying that if they paid some tax as a percentage of the profits you could build a sovereign wealth fund? Good to see you're making progress on the matter.

But wait? We had this thing that was called a Super Resources Profit tax proposed by Labor in 2012.

Minerals Resource Rent Tax - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Remember that. A whopper of a lobbying effort by the Big Miners resulted in these emotive commercials on TV with green lush landscapes and implied threats of mass job losses and towns gutted forever because fat greedy cunts didn't want to pay tax along with their lickspittle AM talk radio hosts gobbling billionaire cock.

The Libs ( bought and paid for by the mining industry ) eventually repealed it.

 

[Muz]

Best Australians I know don't speak much English either.

Clearly they're not 'Australians'. /S

 

[Sharkman84]

The irony here is I read this in the thickest old school italian accent

So you're disagreeing that we shouldn't let people into the country with no English, won't integrate into Australian society and generally hate the West?

 

[tsf]

So you're disagreeing that we shouldn't let people into the country with no English, won't integrate into Australian society and generally hate the West?

What I do know is there are a lot of foreigners on their 3 or 4th language who have a better grasp of English than a lot of Aussies.

 

[tsf]

generally hate the West?

What does this mean?

Can you break it down

 

[Muz]

Sovereign wealth funds ( Norway, Saudi Arabia, Qatar )tend to be built on the back of massive fossil fuel resources ( oil, gas,coal ).

Local and international multinationals own it all, pay no tax, keep the profits & then trickle some down to shareholders. So you're saying that if they paid some tax as a percentage of the profits you could build a sovereign wealth fund? Good to see you're making progress on the matter.

But wait? We had this thing that was called a Super Resources Profit tax proposed by Labor in 2012.

Minerals Resource Rent Tax - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Remember that. A whopper of a lobbying effort by the Big Miners resulted in these emotive commercials on TV with green lush landscapes and implied threats of mass job losses and towns gutted forever because fat greedy cunts didn't want to pay tax along with their lickspittle AM talk radio hosts gobbling billionaire cock.

The Libs ( bought and paid for by the mining industry ) eventually repealed it.

Yeah but that's a redistribution of wealth and that's cOmMuNIsm!!

I mean let's not be bothered by the fact it would help us mere plebs, our children and society at large.

Won't someone think of the billionaires and multi-nationals?

 

[Muz]

So you're disagreeing that we shouldn't let people into the country with no English, won't integrate into Australian society and generally hate the West?

Christ you can extrapolate and draw the longest bow from the most innocuous of statements.

Do you understand why people say you lack nuance?

 

[Sharkman84]

Christ you can extrapolate and draw the longest bow from the most innocuous of statements.

Do you understand why people say you lack nuance?

As opposed to you who think anyone who is centre-right is inherently evil?

 

[Muz]

Sovereign wealth funds ( Norway, Saudi Arabia, Qatar )tend to be built on the back of massive fossil fuel resources ( oil, gas,coal ).

Local and international multinationals own it all, pay no tax, keep the profits & then trickle some down to shareholders. So you're saying that if they paid some tax as a percentage of the profits you could build a sovereign wealth fund? Good to see you're making progress on the matter.

But wait? We had this thing that was called a Super Resources Profit tax proposed by Labor in 2012.

Minerals Resource Rent Tax - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Remember that. A whopper of a lobbying effort by the Big Miners resulted in these emotive commercials on TV with green lush landscapes and implied threats of mass job losses and towns gutted forever because fat greedy cunts didn't want to pay tax along with their lickspittle AM talk radio hosts gobbling billionaire cock.

The Libs ( bought and paid for by the mining industry ) eventually repealed it.

Total cost to the mining lobby? $20 million.

Absolute fucking bargain and Australian hating, billionaire bootlicking, coalition voters lapped it up.

And it makes me laugh on social media when all these squawking clowns say 'we should do something about the royalties we getting'.

Yeah well who'd you fucking vote for? One out of every two of you voted for the coalition.

 

[Muz]

As opposed to you who think anyone who is centre-right is inherently evil?

Another long bow.

 

[Sharkman84]

Another long bow.

Well it seems you think anyone who isn't a Labor/Greens diehard as inherently evil.

 

[Muz]

Well it seems you think anyone who isn't a Labor/Greens diehard as inherently evil.

You'll love this. I voted Teal at the last election in my electorate.

Greens in the senate.

I believe that the senate should be a 'house of review' and without a party there to hold the balance of power it fails to satisfy that condition. This used to be the Democrats job until they faded away. It now falls to the Greens and other cross-benchers like David Pocock (who I have a lot of time for, shame he's not in my electorate) to wield that power.

So whilst I don't agree with the Greens on all things I can't, in good conscience, give Labor a rubber stamp in the Senate. I'm not alone. The Greens have held the balance of power for decades. Plenty of people think the same as I do.

Government is better served by parties that compromise, in my opinion, though sometimes I wonder if a benevolent dictatorship like Singapore has (yes I realise they're a democracy, on paper at least) would be better.

 

[tsf]

I wonder if a benevolent dictatorship like Singapore has (yes I realise they're a democracy, on paper at least) would be better.

Problem is how do you find someone with Lee Kuan Yew qualities nowadays in politics.

David Graeber was an interesting guy. Anarchist, but takes that are worth a listen.