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Which is your preferred option for a national second tier?

Which is your preferred option for a national second tier?

  • 1) NPL post-season Champions League tournament

    Votes: 1 2.5%

  • 2) League format aligned with NPL season

    Votes: 9 22.5%

  • 3) League format aligned with A-League season

    Votes: 16 40.0%

  • 4) League format seasonally aligned with nothing

    Votes: 13 32.5%

  • 5) A form of conference system

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • 6) Nothing. It’s unsustainable

    Votes: 1 2.5%
  • Total voters
    40
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biggiemic said:
I agree, as long as the "tax funds" are put to good use (grassroots etc).

Otherwise I see no need in punishing ambitious owners willing to spend.
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Grassroots funding isnt a bad idea, a luxury tax though has the funds just go to the other clubs

It ends up making the top of the league as unpredictable as a salary cap system, but doesnt curb ambition anywhere near as much so the average salary of the league grows faster than a salary capped league
 
grazorblade said:
Grassroots funding isnt a bad idea, a luxury tax though has the funds just go to the other clubs

It ends up making the top of the league as unpredictable as a salary cap system, but doesnt curb ambition anywhere near as much so the average salary of the league grows faster than a salary capped league
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The 'luxury' tax should be used to prop on the 2nd tier clubs. Even if it were only to subsidise travel.
 
I went for 3 - mostly on the selfish grounds of wanting to keep my club in prominence.

For the biggest stumbling block of licences purchased, to have two closed tiers as a starting point is something I could imagine the owners would be able to at least consider. They will simply not come at any first step where there is a chance their 'investment' in top flight association is not guaranteed.

I chose it because it is the likeliest form of P/R involving my club that we are going to see while the aleague exists.
 
grazorblade said:
Grassroots funding isnt a bad idea, a luxury tax though has the funds just go to the other clubs

It ends up making the top of the league as unpredictable as a salary cap system, but doesnt curb ambition anywhere near as much so the average salary of the league grows faster than a salary capped league
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But if it goes to others clubs, you are essentially helping the opposition. Imagine Club X pay a truck load in tax, do terrible on the field, and Club Y, who receive additional funding from the tax, sign a couple players with those funds and help them avoid relegation, and Club X gets relegated!
 
My main hope is that whatever we go with, it will involve some ethnic based clubs.

To me that is the ultimate holdout separating football in Australia and inclusion in a second tier is critical.

Get an ethnic based team or two in and we are on track for a complete football system. Easy for me to say, but even renaming/branding to Western United as a first step is a big first step. I know that goes against the grain and 'principles' of any community club with history.
 
Cant lie.... the WU decision is the best proof that they (APL) are the worst thing we could align the championship to if they remain... I am convinced that if the whole game doesnt go under the FA alone then whatever plan is in place will be killed off one way or another by them! Perhaps going it alone ia the only real way to succeed and head to head, no favours to APL.
 
I think the championship is probably the best way to go with foundation clubs and 8 qualification clubs but just do 2x8 groups a 14 weeks+ finals season in alignment with A-league
 
I wouldn't mind the US system , i know there is no promotion or relegation but USL is extremely strong and professional and has 2-3 divisions , don't shoot me though as its only a thought
 
mikes27091 said:
I wouldn't mind the US system , i know there is no promotion or relegation but USL is extremely strong and professional and has 2-3 divisions , don't shoot me though as its only a thought
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And the expansion comes from those existing teams. At least until the parallel pyramid was introduced this year.

If that's what the Championship turns out to be (until pro/rel is fully implemented), I'd be ok with that.
 
RIMB said:
My main hope is that whatever we go with, it will involve some ethnic based clubs.

To me that is the ultimate holdout separating football in Australia and inclusion in a second tier is critical.

Get an ethnic based team or two in and we are on track for a complete football system. Easy for me to say, but even renaming/branding to Western United as a first step is a big first step. I know that goes against the grain and 'principles' of any community club with history.
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Why specifically ethnic club though? Why not any Aussie club?

As for re-naming/branding to fit into some sort of arbitrary mainstream consciousness, how would you go following a re-branded Roar if they went down the path of "North East Australia FC" and played in green and blue stripes?
 
Seems like they'll expand the Championship by hand picking teams, then connect to NPL instead of A-League. Only 20% of our poll wanted the NPL link. Nearly three-quarters wanted to be linked to A-League.


"A home-and-away model also represents a necessary step before the competition can look to properly connect the tiers of Australian football through promotion and relegation, first by linking it with the NPL competitions below and, hopefully, with the A-League Men.

This, Godfrey acknowledged, was a long-term goal, but for now was secondary to focusing on building sustainability and, citing Japan's J2 League, growing the Championship through expansion."

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Australian Championship: Clubs, season start, all you need to know

The Australian Championship begins on Friday, Oct. 10. But which clubs are participating? And where will you be able to watch it? Joey Lynch answers some national second-tier FAQs.
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Monoethnic Social Club said:
Why specifically ethnic club though? Why not any Aussie club?

As for re-naming/branding to fit into some sort of arbitrary mainstream consciousness, how would you go following a re-branded Roar if they went down the path of "North East Australia FC" and played in green and blue stripes?
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It is the block against ethnic (as in sporting some other nationality in their title) clubs that needs to go. I want it to include ANY club with the possibility for EVERY club (in their dreams/goals/hopes/futures).

Roar rebranded from Queensland Roar to Brisbane Roar - and as a franchise club the name does not have the same identity and meaning as it does to community clubs. That is why I said it would go against everything they stand for - not that I thought it a good solution.
 
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