Vive La France: French Football discussion thread

[HonestSpursFan]

Can’t believe Esteban Lepaul won the Golden Boot but is getting zero respect for it. No call-up for the World Cup, no Team of the Season, no awards.

 

[Football us life]

La semaine de la finale de la Coupe de France - The week of the French Cup final....

And on Le Foot this week we look at one of the greatest fairy tales in French football history – the incredible run of 4th Division Calais RUFC to the 2000 Coupe de France final ...

Le Petit Poucet

Le Petit Poucet – The Amateurs Who Almost Conquered France: Calais, 2000, and the Purest Fairy Tale French Football Ever Knew A ...

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It remains one of the most romantic underdog stories in Coupe de France history (and one of the biggest shocks in European domestic cup football). A fourth-tier amateur team going toe-to-toe with the defending champions in the final at the Stade de France.

 

[Football us life]

Can’t believe Esteban Lepaul won the Golden Boot but is getting zero respect for it. No call-up for the World Cup, no Team of the Season, no awards.

I thought when Hugo Ekitiké was ruled out through injury, a spot opened up for a physical, backup centre-forward like Lepaul..

He has only played a couple of top flight seasons and with France's extreme strength in depth of attackers Deschamps might have taken that into consideration.

I think a Premier League club will sign him up, probably Spurs....

But a decent season in the English Premier League might eventually get him a call up....

 

[HonestSpursFan]

I thought when Hugo Ekitiké was ruled out through injury, a spot opened up for a physical, backup centre-forward like Lepaul..

He has only played a couple of top flight seasons and with France's extreme strength in depth of attackers Deschamps might have taken that into consideration.

I think a Premier League club will sign him up, probably Spurs....

But a decent season in the English Premier League might eventually get him a call up....

I’d love to have him at Spurs. We need a goalscorer and Richarlison just doesn’t cut it (evidently he’s not in Brazil’s squad even with a washed up Neymar in there).

 

[Football us life]

This is the new trophy for the newly created Ligue 3 champion.....

As good as the toilet seat?

 

[HonestSpursFan]

This is the new trophy for the newly created Ligue 3 champion.....

As good as the toilet seat?

Looks like a gong.

 

[Football us life]

On my Le Foot blog this week we look at newly promoted to Ligue Un Le Mans FC and their renaissance from bankruptcy 13 years ago..

La Renaissance du Le Mans FC

La Renaissance: How Le Mans Rose from the Ashes of Bankruptcy to Promotion to Ligue 1 A story of liquidation and resurrection, o...

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Following the liquidation in 2013, the club lost its professional status and was forced to restart in the amateur ranks, being placed in the sixth tier (Division d'Honneur).

But now they're back..

 

[Monoethnic Social Club]

This is the new trophy for the newly created Ligue 3 champion.....

As good as the toilet seat?

Shes beautiful.... Were can I order a set of 6 for my daughters dowry?

 

[Football us life]

France's 1998 World Cup winning team united a diverse nation under "Black-Blanc-Beur." The joy was real. But the slogan masked deeper divisions that football alone couldn't fix. A complicated legacy brilliant, hopeful, and unfinished.
For one summer, France saw itself differently. A team that reflected the country's diversity — Zidane, Thuram, Desailly, Vieira, Karembeu became national heroes. The slogan "Black-Blanc-Beur" (Black-White-Arab) captured something genuine – a sense that maybe, just maybe, France could embrace its multicultural reality.

The Champs-Élysées filled with 1.5 million people from every background imaginable. It was real. It was beautiful. And for a generation of kids from immigrant families, seeing players who looked like them lift the World Cup mattered enormously.

But the slogan was always more complicated than the celebrations suggested.

In this week's Le Foot blog we reflect on that summer of 1998 and one of those rare sporting moments that transcended sport.

Black, Blanc, Beur

Black, Blanc, Beur: The Team That Changed France Forever More Than a World Cup Some football teams win trophies. A few become le...

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[HonestSpursFan]

"Black-Blanc-Beur" (Black-White-Arab)

Just to clarify, beur refers specifically to Maghrebis (North Africans). It comes from Verlan, which is a bit like French Pig Latin since it reverses the syllables of a word (so arabe became bear then beur).

 

[Football us life]

Just to clarify, beur refers specifically to Maghrebis (North Africans). It comes from Verlan, which is a bit like French Pig Latin since it reverses the syllables of a word (so arabe became bear then beur).

The phrase "Black, Blanc, Beur" is a popular French cultural expression, a socio-political slogan and pun that emerged in the 1990s to represent the diverse, multicultural reality of modern France....

It became the nickname that defined the 1998 FIFA World Cup winning French national team but later became a bit controversial.

 

[HonestSpursFan]

The phrase "Black, Blanc, Beur" is a popular French cultural expression, a socio-political slogan and pun that emerged in the 1990s to represent the diverse, multicultural reality of modern France....

It became the nickname that defined the 1998 FIFA World Cup winning French national team but later became a bit controversial.

Yes I know, I was just correcting the translation. Technically “Black” also isn’t a French word (Noir is though) but it fits with the BBB acronym.

As for the controversy I think people make anything controversial these days.

 

[Football us life]

Yes I know, I was just correcting the translation. Technically “Black” also isn’t a French word (Noir is though) but it fits with the BBB acronym.

As for the controversy I think people make anything controversial these days.

Yeah it wasn’t meant to be exact, it was a slogan, a play on words....

First coined by a hip hop dance company from the Parisian banlieues who called themselves...."Black Blanc Beur" or just B3 for yer hip hop shorthand!

It probably became a powerful symbol of multiculturalism in France long before it had a football connotation in 1998.

The controversy came along when all the white middle class educatedc media elites thought it reduced individuals to racial or ethnic categories and felt it became a feel-good myth that masked ongoing social inequalities, discrimination, and tensions in the banlieues.....

One of those terminologies that sits at the intersection of football, politics, culture, and national identity ...

An Australian version of this might be the "Shelia's, Wogs and Poofta's"....

 

[HonestSpursFan]

An Australian version of this might be the "Shelia's, Wogs and Poofta's"....

Possibly, but they’re completely different in intentions. The French one is about diversity in the game, the Aussie one is attacking the game and saying only women, immigrants and gays/softies play it (even though it took until Josh Cavallo for Australia to have an active openly gay men’s footballer, though I’d say it’s just a generic insult in that context).

 

[Football us life]

Possibly, but they’re completely different in intentions. The French one is about diversity in the game, the Aussie one is attacking the game and saying only women, immigrants and gays/softies play it (even though it took until Josh Cavallo for Australia to have an active openly gay men’s footballer, though I’d say it’s just a generic insult in that context).

Well they're similar in the context that "Black-Blanc-Beur" and "Sheilas, Wogs & Pooftas" both label society's 'others' in football......the French slogan celebrates multi-ethnic unity (Black, White, Arab), while the Aussie phrase crudely tags women, ethnic migrants and gay men as soccer's outsider underclass.

Both three word slogans for nations wrestling with immigration and national identity through football.

The French phrase was proudly reclaimed as a symbol of multi-ethnic unity whilst the Australian one was ironically reclaimed by one of Australian football's most famous players as the title of his biography!!

 

[LFC]

anyway bugger the grammer lessons

So F u l, considering your luv of the frenchies/frogs < old lessons haha do you think they have a chance, lets say make the Final ?

 

[HonestSpursFan]

anyway bugger the grammer lessons

So F u l, considering your luv of the frenchies/frogs < old lessons haha do you think they have a chance, lets say make the Final ?

Personally I reckon either France or Spain will be the favourites. Coulda been England too if they actually picked a good squad.

 

[Football us life]

anyway bugger the grammer lessons

So F u l, considering your luv of the frenchies/frogs < old lessons haha do you think they have a chance, lets say make the Final ?

France has a tournament winning DNA so they'll always be in the mix...

Ask me at the QF stage...

The South American teams will be very competitive and will climatise very well and like the Club World Cup will have tremendous backing from their fans.

 

[LFC]

I'll respond both of you.....

HSF, for me its Spain/Argies/France/dark horse's Portugal.
Their mids are pretty much the best across the park incl the ones above.
Nah 3Lions I just can't see them going the distance,
Foden/Palmer/TAA are huge calls imo.

Ful, sure France are usual suspects but they lose the plot some games as we've seen over some years.
With all the talent its quite individual at times.
I hope they don't get the Cup
As much as I luv some Euro NT''s I have soft spots for SthMerican nations because they are always underdogs mainly.
Sure Argies are defending Champs and rightly so, are they good enough go back to back ? as you say their support and others will be massive and they'll settle in very well.
Brazil have 4th best odds in some sights, I find that puzzling tbh.
They have a good attack and one of the best coachs - they may surprise.
Qtr stage hahaha talk about lacking confidence

 

[HonestSpursFan]

I'll respond both of you.....

HSF, for me its Spain/Argies/France/dark horse's Portugal.
Their mids are pretty much the best across the park incl the ones above.
Nah 3Lions I just can't see them going the distance,
Foden/Palmer/TAA are huge calls imo.

Ful, sure France are usual suspects but they lose the plot some games as we've seen over some years.
With all the talent its quite individual at times.
I hope they don't get the Cup
As much as I luv some Euro NT''s I have soft spots for SthMerican nations because they are always underdogs mainly.
Sure Argies are defending Champs and rightly so, are they good enough go back to back ? as you say their support and others will be massive and they'll settle in very well.
Brazil have 4th best odds in some sights, I find that puzzling tbh.
They have a good attack and one of the best coachs - they may surprise.
Qtr stage hahaha talk about lacking confidence

I do agree about Portugal, they’ve got a solid team. We could genuinely see Argentina vs Portugal which would be a World Cup classic given it’ll be the first and last time Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo play each other at a World Cup.

Two teams I don’t expect to go too far though are Croatia and Germany.