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grazorblade

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Not sure where to put this, so made a new thread
www.independent.co.uk

Pep Guardiola’s ideology is dead. So where does football go next?

After 15 years of dominance, Guardiola’s ideas of pressing and possession that gripped the game have now unravelled, giving way to fast transitions and set-piece duels. Is this football’s ‘end of history’ moment?
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk

And an Aussie who tweets a lot about tactics has a critical take on the article


In my opinion the best times in football is when it isn't clear what is next as you get a lot of variety in international football. The 00s was the peak for fun
 
Here's me thinking I'm seeing double but this is the only tactics thread.
 
grazorblade said:
Not sure where to put this, so made a new thread
www.independent.co.uk

Pep Guardiola’s ideology is dead. So where does football go next?

After 15 years of dominance, Guardiola’s ideas of pressing and possession that gripped the game have now unravelled, giving way to fast transitions and set-piece duels. Is this football’s ‘end of history’ moment?
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk

And an Aussie who tweets a lot about tactics has a critical take on the article


In my opinion the best times in football is when it isn't clear what is next as you get a lot of variety in international football. The 00s was the peak for fun
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80’s football by LFC was brilliant viewing might I add. Yes before your times.
So was seriea to me it was so technical sitting deep.
Funny that style plays today.
Klopp football was impressive of the modern times to then counter Pep ball.
What goes around comes around.
Individuals are coming to be again bit more.
Set pieces have always been around to me just comes down who has players who are good meeting headers and those that are it’s reported they are set piece experts ala Arse of late.
Nothing new to me.
 
I remember in 1990 when Serie A was first shown on what was then a very rudimentary sports pay tv channel in the UK. This was before the Sky Sports phenomenon....

My dad had it at his house and I'd go around and watch these clubs that you would read about in World Soccer magazine.

We'd both sit there watching these world class players wandering what the fuss was....

After a few months it kind of clicked. The football wasn't particularly pretty but it was more like chess. Some of the clubs would play a quite rigid catenaccio and some like AC Milan under Arrigo Sacchi and Juve under Giovanni Trappatoni would play a more sophisticated zonal marking with a high press...

Napoli with Maradona conducting the entire operation from the pitch would be more fast flowing all out attack. This was called the fantasista role....

FMD 'd never heard these footballing terms before....It was my first introduction to footballing tactical genius....

A few years later the free to air Channel 4, the UK's equivalent of SBS picked up the Serie A rights and started a Saturday morning tv discussion show called Gazzetta Football Italia hosted by a young James Richardson who was the UK's kind of Serie A expert...

It was a very intense but brilliant footballing education process....

With these tactical situations explained in the same manner ss they would be in La Gazzetta dello Sport or Tuttosport, the big Italian sports daily newspapers.

They launched a monthly Italian football magazine called Football Italia which was very heavy on the tactical side of Serie A. This was a great time to be a football fan. Lot's of highbrow football discussion....
 
I've read a couple of books on Serie A in those days. I might have a re-read and try and do a bit of an article.

I think sometimes we don't think deeply enough about the tactical structures and situations. It's a hugely interesting thing for me...

Great thread btw Grazor....👍
 
Structured football was spectacularly beautiful when only some teams were doing it, but gets old if every team is too similar

I'm really hoping that the game gets less structured, but the trend seems to be towards more and more structure

I don't think that changes until the best south americans play in south america, that probably takes the club world cup to be the biggest competition in the world.
 
grazorblade said:
Structured football was spectacularly beautiful when only some teams were doing it, but gets old if every team is too similar

I'm really hoping that the game gets less structured, but the trend seems to be towards more and more structure

I don't think that changes until the best south americans play in south america, that probably takes the club world cup to be the biggest competition in the world.
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There’s a time for both approaches within the same match, or rather that’s the barest bones of my ⚽️ing philosophy. Slumming it vs. an opponent on par with/weaker than you via a catenacchio defence, let alone Popa’s haram-ball, is a fiery dagger to the joy and beauty of the game as a whole. Save that sh1t for when you’re up against a veritably-superior opponent💡
 
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grazorblade said:
Structured football was spectacularly beautiful when only some teams were doing it, but gets old if every team is too similar

I'm really hoping that the game gets less structured, but the trend seems to be towards more and more structure

I don't think that changes until the best south americans play in south america, that probably takes the club world cup to be the biggest competition in the world.
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I think there needs to be some balance between attacking and defensive tactical philosophies because if your focus is overly attacking-based like Angeball or what Montemurro is trying to bring to the Matildas then teams will end up needlessly conceding goals, but on the other hand haram-ball and park the bus will just lead to scoreless draws and fans being bored to death.
 
I like the haram-ball expression but realistically it equates as eating pork and drinking alcohol which are both things I do and enjoy so I’m conflicted.
 
Kitwally said:
I like the haram-ball expression but realistically it equates as eating pork and drinking alcohol which are both things I do and enjoy so I’m conflicted.
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Is haram purely a theological term or is it just an arabic word for sinful which would mean something different in different cultures?
 
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