Socceroos vs Venezuela/ Colombia Nov 25
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CommBank Socceroos to take on Venezuela and Colombia in the United States
Football Australia is pleased to confirm that the CommBank Socceroos will return to the USA during the November FIFA
This is gonna be interesting considering the US may militarily strike Venezuela before then. Plus tensions high between the US and Colombia. If the US attacks all bets are off re these games.
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They're just fishermen. Look at all those big cannisters with their whitebait. The pubs in the USA need their whitebait for bar snacks.
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Would be tempted for a euro based camp to avoid burnout
But playing south american nations is just fun. Something more fun about playing them than any other type of country, particularly countries we can compete with
But playing south american nations is just fun. Something more fun about playing them than any other type of country, particularly countries we can compete with
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Venezualia elo is around 1710 and columbia nearly 2000, 6th toughest opponent in the world. We are at 1800. Columbia will be perhaps the toughest opponent since france
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I think will also be a good test for our players to practice keeping a level ahead against the niggling dark arts. We need to realise any sending offs in a WC group stage can spell doom.
Very happy with these friendlies over Argentina in India and Japan in Japan in that Kirin cup that were rumoured.
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Would’ve been nice to compete in the Kirin Cup though; it has a modest prestige about it.
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Ok, so - I'm going to make the assumption that Austria beats Cyprus on matchday one - this will move their rankings points to 1590.76
This table then shows the possibilities for Austria (and Bosnia's) ranking points in the event of win/draw/loss for each team (and variations based off Bosnia v Romania's result on matchday one - because this will affect the points change for Austria)
Starting points column displays either Austria's starting points, or Bosnia's starting points, but the other 3 columns will show only Austria's points)
Bear in mind that, in the event Bosnia wins their first match, and then also defeats Austria (the top row) this likely means Austria fails to qualify, so we'd jump them in the Seedings regardless.
Next, to Ecuador - they have two matches - first against Canada, and then secondly against NZ (who plays Colombia in the first matchday). For hypotheticals sake, I'm going to make the prediction that Colombia beats NZ, so will have NZ starting off on that note.
First row is purely for Ecuador v Canada. Second row and below spells out the different points for results against NZ, taking into account different results v Canada (based off NZ losing to Colombia first - rankings points for them would be 1281.60)
Now, here's where I've had to change a few things. Korea now has a second friendly booked against Ghana. So, I will be doing a second table below the Korea/Bolivia match to show their possible rankings points changes for the result against Ghana.
Now, for the Ghana match, they play Japan on the first international date - to save on some calculations, I'm going to assume Japan defeats Ghana (but I've listed either option for starting points below)
Now, for us
And again, covering all bases with Colombia playing NZ on matchday 1 - which I predicted earlier as a Colombia win, so am going to go the same route here. However, I have Colombia's points lined up below for all of the Colombia v NZ possible results if needed later on
Essentially that means Australia will have a range of 1576.08 - 1595.99 rankings points at the end of the international window. Based off the current rankings (so not taking anyone else's results into effect), we cannot go down in the rankings, but we can go up to as high as 22nd (currently Korea). My prediction early on is that we'll defeat Venezuela, but lose to Colombia - therefore ending on 1585.99 rankings points (up from the 1584.02 we are currently on.
Assuming that's what happens, then what we want is basically either of the following scenarios happening to snek into Pot 2:
This table then shows the possibilities for Austria (and Bosnia's) ranking points in the event of win/draw/loss for each team (and variations based off Bosnia v Romania's result on matchday one - because this will affect the points change for Austria)
Starting points column displays either Austria's starting points, or Bosnia's starting points, but the other 3 columns will show only Austria's points)
| Starting Points | Austria Win | Draw | Bosnia Win | |
| Austria | 1590.76 | |||
| Bosnia (defeated Romania) | 1357.11 | 1598.00 | 1585.5 | 1573.00 |
| Bosnia (draw with Romania) | 1344.61 | 1597.76 | 1585.26 | 1572.76 |
| Bosnia (loss to Romania) | 1332.11 | 1597.52 | 1585.02 | 1572.52 |
Bear in mind that, in the event Bosnia wins their first match, and then also defeats Austria (the top row) this likely means Austria fails to qualify, so we'd jump them in the Seedings regardless.
Next, to Ecuador - they have two matches - first against Canada, and then secondly against NZ (who plays Colombia in the first matchday). For hypotheticals sake, I'm going to make the prediction that Colombia beats NZ, so will have NZ starting off on that note.
First row is purely for Ecuador v Canada. Second row and below spells out the different points for results against NZ, taking into account different results v Canada (based off NZ losing to Colombia first - rankings points for them would be 1281.60)
| Starting Points | Ecuador win | Draw | Ecuador loss | |
| Ecuador vs Canada | 1589.72 | 1594.38 | 1589.38 | 1584.38 |
| Ecuador (defeated Canada) | 1594.38 | 1596.69 | 1591.69 | 1586.69 |
| Ecuador (draw with Canada) | 1589.38 | 1591.73 | 1586.73 | 1581.73 |
| Ecuador (loss to Canada) | 1584.38 | 1586.76 | 1581.76 | 1576.76 |
Now, here's where I've had to change a few things. Korea now has a second friendly booked against Ghana. So, I will be doing a second table below the Korea/Bolivia match to show their possible rankings points changes for the result against Ghana.
| Starting points | KOR win | Draw | BOL win | |
| Korea | 1593.92 | 1596.62 | 1591.62 | 1586.62 |
| Bolivia | 1334.55 | Who cares | Who cares | Who cares |
Now, for the Ghana match, they play Japan on the first international date - to save on some calculations, I'm going to assume Japan defeats Ghana (but I've listed either option for starting points below)
| Starting points | KOR win | Draw | Ghana win | |
| Korea (defeated Bolivia) | 1594.57 | 1597.41 | 1592.41 | 1587.41 |
| Korea (draw with Bolivia) | 1589.57 | 1592.45 | 1587.45 | 1582.45 |
| Korea (lost to Bolivia) | 1584.57 | 1587.49 | 1582.49 | 1577.49 |
| Ghana (defeated Japan) | 1363.92 | - | - | - |
| Ghana (draw with Japan) | 1358.92 | - | - | - |
| Ghana (loss to Japan) | 1353.92 | - | - | - |
Now, for us
| Starting Points | VEN win | Draw | AUS win | |
| Venezuela | 1463.27 | Who cares | Who cares | Who cares |
| Australia | 1586.13 | 1579.97 | 1584.97 | 1589.97 |
And again, covering all bases with Colombia playing NZ on matchday 1 - which I predicted earlier as a Colombia win, so am going to go the same route here. However, I have Colombia's points lined up below for all of the Colombia v NZ possible results if needed later on
| Starting points AUS | COL win | Draw | AUS win | |
| Australia (defeated VEN) | 1589.97 | 1585.99 | 1590.99 | 1595.99 |
| Australia (draw with VEN) | 1584.97 | 1581.03 | 1586.03 | 1591.03 |
| Australia (lost to VEN) | 1579.97 | 1576.08 | 1581.08 | 1586.08 |
| Colombia (defeated NZ) | 1697.41 | - | - | - |
| Colombia (draw with NZ) | 1692.42 | - | - | - |
| Colombia (loss to NZ) | 1687.42 | - | - | - |
Essentially that means Australia will have a range of 1576.08 - 1595.99 rankings points at the end of the international window. Based off the current rankings (so not taking anyone else's results into effect), we cannot go down in the rankings, but we can go up to as high as 22nd (currently Korea). My prediction early on is that we'll defeat Venezuela, but lose to Colombia - therefore ending on 1585.99 rankings points (up from the 1584.02 we are currently on.
Assuming that's what happens, then what we want is basically either of the following scenarios happening to snek into Pot 2:
- Korea loses to Bolivia AND fails to defeat Ghana
- Korea draws with Bolivia AND loses to Ghana
- Ecuador draws with Canada AND loses to New Zealand
- Ecuador loses to Canada AND fails to defeat New Zealand
- Austria to lose to Bosnia and Herzegovina - this will either see them lose enough ranking points OR fail to qualify directly (depending on the result of Bosnia & Herzegovina v Romania on Matchday 1)
- Belgium fail to qualify directly somehow
- Germany fail to qualify directly somehow
- Denmark fail to qualify directly somehow
- Norway NOT WIN against Estonia
- If Norway defeats Estonia, and Italy defeats Moldova, Italy then needs to beat Norway AND overturn a 16 goal difference to jump Norway at the top
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Can’t read it. Comes up as a very pale grey. Too pale and faint to be able to read.
Lucky for us that Nigeria made the CAF playoffs
Tell the Venezuelan and Colombian spectators to wear Socceroos gear -that will confuse those ICE agents.Seriously though these are good teams to play.
