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Soccer Ashes thread

@Decentric Losing 2-1 to a country at war is an example of improving?
Fair comment, TSF.

Until the war, Ukraine have been a pretty good side in UEFA. Ditto Russia.

I'm not abreast of recent Ukraine performances, but I think I've read they've still been a good side. It is often hard to believe how teams like Palestine, Syria and Iraq have been good on the pitch in times of war.
 
I think Popa is making small changes now that he is firming up his favoured players and I am not too bothered by that.

Had he brought on another 3 players the team loses some cohesion and whatever the things are that Popa is monitoring become confused with instability.

Players coming to the national team camp would be proud to be included and even without getting on the pitch would be improving the squad depth with the experience among their peers - as well as being given the opportunity to 'learn' under a different coaching style and system to their club world.

What we want to see is not necessarily the best option for them or the team.
 
For me, Strain is by miles our best option but he's so often injured everyone's just forgotten about him.

He's the McGree of the RB world.
Interesting comment. Strain is another darling of G and G posters.

I had a another look at a game where JS had pointed what he identified as all of Behich's mistakes at specific minutes and seconds of a game. I think JS was right on about 1 out of 6 or 8 occasions.

In the same game, Strain was playing. He made far more errors than Behich! IMO Strain struggled.

I think our current best RB options, although Popa plays a Right CB or Right WB, are Miller or Geria ATM. Bennie and Adamson are coming on - and at their ages it can be very fast!
 
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I think Popa is making small changes now that he is firming up his favoured players and I am not too bothered by that.

Had he brought on another 3 players the team loses some cohesion and whatever the things are that Popa is monitoring become confused with instability.

Players coming to the national team camp would be proud to be included and even without getting on the pitch would be improving the squad depth with the experience among their peers - as well as being given the opportunity to 'learn' under a different coaching style and system to their club world.

What we want to see is not necessarily the best option for them or the team.
Good post.

Good points made, RIMB.

However, late in the game there was little to lose. Bringing Hrustic and Boyle on instead IMO was counterproductive as opposed to giving newbies a feel of international football.
 
Irankunda defended well. He's quick and closed down space. Him and Toure are menaces together.
I'll know more at the end of collating stats.

Toure has always been a menace defensively, but I'll know more about Iran - soon.
 
It's interesting to see how most of our most recent goals have come in something of an instant. We seem very at home in transition phases and when we have a bit of space against an unconcentrated opponent.

4 of 5 China goals, 4 against NZ, 2 Indonesia, 1 KSA, and even Japan home came from quick decision in transition which see a chance present itself.
This is to do with the tactics of the opposition.

Since Indo, China in the second half, Japan, Saudi and now the Kiwis, they all gegenpressed / Full Pressed and intensively Squeezed in our defensive half in Ball Possession Opposition.

They've considered it paramount to disturb our build ups in our own half. All have lost trying to do it against the Poparoos.

Conversely, China did it in the first half, and Bahrain did it in both games - played Half Presses and Partial Presses, defending deep. Hence, we had a lot more easy ball access in our defensive half, even the defensive and midfield thirds of the pitch in Possession. Lots of fans criticised our inability to be creative in these scenarios.

This is where Hrustic excels. He does not have to do do much chasing the ball when the other team has it, and has plenty of easy ball himself. H e does not have to work hard. Arzani is also ideal for these scenarios.

So getting back to Indo, China second half, Saudi, Japan and Kiwis, disturbing the Aus build ups was paramount. We rarely had more than one unmarked player opening a passing lane to build up.

The opposition effectively negated most of our players receiving effectively to play forwards- with their body shape often facing backwards when receiving.

By committing so many opposition players forward and aggressively sprinting to close down space, space is either vacant between the opposition midfield and defensive lines, or if in the scenario of a high defensive line, the space is behind the opposition defensive line. Hence, accelerated attacks worked for Aus - at times.

Remember all those games Aus have dominated, being sucked into committing players forward, only to see an effective counterattack launched by the the opposition.

Conversely, in recent times Aus has needed to play early balls whilst the opposition defence has been stretched.

Notice in the second Ashes game, the Kiwis started running out of gas in the 60th min mark. In the first game they lasted to closer to 70 mins. This time they really flagged.

Aus were able to play against far less Squeezing pressure in the latter parts of those games. Players had more time and space on the ball.

It is hard to coach coordinated gegenpressing. We have to credit Indo, Saudi, Japan and Kiwis. Popa plays more of a Half Press and doesn't Squeeze as much - trying to keep the defensive shape compact at all times.

It has worked. The opposition has rarely broken through, forcing the Aus defensive line to defend running facing their own defensive goal.
 
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Good post.

Good points made, RIMB.

However, late in the game there was little to lose. Bringing Hrustic and Boyle on instead IMO was counterproductive as opposed to giving newbies a feel of international football.
I hear you - but I would also say that late in the game is still in the game and insurmountable leads have resulted in draws and losses by a team unable to close a game out.

If Popa favours us with the players we want to see in the last minutes of a game, we never have the 'likely' real team practicing closing a game out in anything like real conditions.

We are only a couple of friendlies out from competition football. Popa had the chance to simply blood and trial random groups of players to get some vision of them but it is getting where he has to earn his keep for real. He got us through Step 1 of qualifying but he now has to cement and expose the core of our team to as much time together as he can to have us ready.

We are going to face some tough late in the games at the World Cup.
 
I really can't relate to the name due to all my life re The Ash's cricket - I get it but its strange to grasp it at this stage.
Time will heal my outlook I suppose.
 
Does anyone here recoil at the 'Soccer Ashes' name?
I recoiled initially until I heard it was created in 1923 - giving it history and tradition and taking it beyond the pale imitation of the cricket ashes that is first brings up.

I now recoil more at the thought of it being the cigar ashes from the captains in the first game. At least they could have burned something meaningful.

I can imagine the two captains in 1923 taking the piss and saying - let's put these in a box and in years to come the idiots will revere them. Bury my father's $20 watch for 100 years sort of stuff.
 
Fair comment, TSF.

Until the war, Ukraine have been a pretty good side in UEFA. Ditto Russia.

I'm not abreast of recent Ukraine performances, but I think I've read they've still been a good side. It is often hard to believe how teams like Palestine, Syria and Iraq have been good on the pitch in times of war.
When I have seen them they have understandably not been at the level they were in the past
 
Duke is past it. Duke’s only quality is his harassing defenders, and Borello is better at that. Neither of them are anywhere near the level of Toure now. They should both never been seen again.
yep lets face it - we had nothing else but fall back on Duke.
He done his best thats all we could ask for and Thanks for who else was really putting pressure on his place.
Borello is ok but he isn't at the standard needed playing better NT sides we will face ahead - he puts in but when comparing the young uns night and day..
Toure despite his young age has already proven its my spot with both hands at this stage imo - with his mate Arakunda D's luv child Popa better nuture this partnership and let them loose the year ahead.
 
yep lets face it - we had nothing else but fall back on Duke.
He done his best thats all we could ask for and Thanks for who else was really putting pressure on his place.
Borello is ok but he isn't at the standard needed playing better NT sides we will face ahead - he puts in but when comparing the young uns night and day..
Toure despite his young age has already proven its my spot with both hands at this stage imo - with his mate Arakunda D's luv child Popa better nuture this partnership and let them loose the year ahead.
Arakunda or do you mean Irankunda, you not stealing some of your wife's Aguardente (Portuguese firewater) again LFC?
 
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