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HonestSpursFan said:
There’s a great point to be made that the seasons should be aligned and the pyramid opened but to call it a “glorified preseason cup” is pretty ridiculous. Plus, from the quarters onwards the A-League teams start to put effort in.
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Yeah aligning the season is tricky, probably not as costly to play in winter now the big bash takes casual sports fans

Would help our players be less injury prone if we went to a winter season
 
It's a massive topic for another thread but I think the A League should attempt something new with scheduling.

We have such a long off season so a mid season break wouldn't be the end of the world. The trouble is it'd probably come during hottest weather which is also Christmas school holidays.

Start in August and play until just before Christmas then resume in February. Bundesliga used to have a break from around December 18 to the end of January.
 
JS96 said:
It's a massive topic for another thread but I think the A League should attempt something new with scheduling.

We have such a long off season so a mid season break wouldn't be the end of the world. The trouble is it'd probably come during hottest weather which is also Christmas school holidays.

Start in August and play until just before Christmas then resume in February. Bundesliga used to have a break from around December 18 to the end of January.
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I like the idea of a leagues cup with group stages (12 a league clubs 8 nst clubs). Stadiums are super expensive making it hard to make a longer season and apparently its hard to get stadiums in winter

The idea was liked by vince rugari and blue and white views, so would be liked across a wide ideological spectrum

-extends the season
-gives nst clubs a chance to grow (even an h&a nst would be short)
-provides more variety opponents than just a league clubs or nst clubs playing each other
- can be done cheaper in npl stadiums
 
I want state championships, like they have in Brazil (another country that suffers the tyranny of distance). There's a lot of positives to it:

1. Saves on travel costs;
2. Allows NPL clubs to play against A-League teams regularly and fill their coffers on larger match attendances; and
3. Most importantly, fills the calendar in a way that accommodates A-League and NPL seasons that take place in different seasons, thereby making it easier to have a joined up pyramid because the league seasons are won't overlap.
 
Toebash said:
I want state championships, like they have in Brazil (another country that suffers the tyranny of distance). There's a lot of positives to it:

1. Saves on travel costs;
2. Allows NPL clubs to play against A-League teams regularly and fill their coffers on larger match attendances; and
3. Most importantly, fills the calendar in a way that accommodates A-League and NPL seasons that take place in different seasons, thereby making it easier to have a joined up pyramid because the league seasons are won't overlap.
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What would it look like?
 
grazorblade said:
What would it look like?
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Yeah great question, and while I was on pat leave I prepared a magnum opus that set out how I envisioned you might conceivably get a proper Australian football pyramid to work so that (i) everyone played enough football, (ii) NPL remained in winter (to line up with junior football and football weather) while the A-League and second division played in summer (to line up with the euro calendar and to avoid pitch availability issues and media competition with the other codes), (iii) you don't have an overlap between league seasons that make pro/rel tricky because teams are potentially playing for 18 months straight and (iv) you don't send everyone bankrupt through travel costs.

The general idea is:

1. 12 team A-League 1 with home and away (i.e. 22 game season) running over summer;
2, 12 team A-League 2 also playing a 22 game home and away season over summer;
3. NPL leagues running over winter.

That's 44 weeks all up, so I'd go with 3 free weekends between between league seasons in autumn, and 5 weekends between league seasons in spring.

The 5 spring window weekends would be taken up by the State Championships, which would also be pro/rel within a particular state and have 6 teams in each division. So in the top tier in NSW you'd start with having Sydney, WSW, Macarthur, Central Coast, Newy and one non A-League club in the top tier, with one team being relegated and promoted each year (so obviously an A-League club might drop to div 2), In Victoria it'd be more interesting, you'd get Victory and City playing against 4 non A-League teams. In SA, QLD and WA it's one A-League team with 5 non A-league teams.

The spring window would also allow a playoff between qualifying NPL teams to go up into the AL2. The idea would be that, if you qualified for that playoff tournament, you just pull out of your state championship for that year and return to it the next season (so NSW1 or NSW2 might only be a 5 team comp for that season).

Effectively, everyone gets a 27 game (or at worst 26 game) season (i.e. more than we have now at A-League level) but with a 22 game league season and enough space to execute pro/rel. Ideally, we'd eventually get to expand the A-League 1 to 14 or 16 teams, in which case those clubs would have 31 or 35 game seasons in the end without having the uncomfortable overlap with A-League 2 (given it's also a summer comp). That's a great length for the top tier I think.

The idea is more developed and I've just got to get around to posting it, but hopefully you get the idea.
 
Beretta said:
Love their attitude.

Pre covid the cup was "mickey mouse" as the A-League teams always pumped the NPL clubs and it was a good laugh for them

Now its a Pre-Season cup they dont care about, not laughing now.
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Not taking a cup seriously is insane to me

Tho i suppose not many turn up for acl and acl2 either which is also weird to me

I guess there are probably still a lot of multisports fans
 
grazorblade said:
Oh interesting. Just confused why football fans wouldnt care about a cup (and similarly why acl and acl2 crowds are small compared to the a league).
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They’re an odd bunch. Here’s an example:



Normally you’d think that progressive people like those on Reddit would be supportive of a young queer woman making it in what would historically be described as a male-dominated field. However, even though she won’t make near as much as, say, Lucas Herrington would at Hull (even if God forbid, he never plays), they blast her for saying the pay she’d get here is shit.

In saying that they’ve got a really weird dislike (to an extent) of her despite her being a world-class player (and someone who copped a lot of abuse after we lost to the Lionesses in 2023). I could be conspiracy theorising here but I wonder if her being from a rural area is part of it (her birthplace, Cowra, votes heavily for the Nationals and voted strongly against the Voice).
 
HonestSpursFan said:
They’re an odd bunch. Here’s an example:



Normally you’d think that progressive people like those on Reddit would be supportive of a young queer woman making it in what would historically be described as a male-dominated field. However, even though she won’t make near as much as, say, Lucas Herrington would at Hull (even if God forbid, he never plays), they blast her for saying the pay she’d get here is shit.

In saying that they’ve got a really weird dislike (to an extent) of her despite her being a world-class player (and someone who copped a lot of abuse after we lost to the Lionesses in 2023). I could be conspiracy theorising here but I wonder if her being from a rural area is part of it (her birthplace, Cowra, votes heavily for the Nationals and voted strongly against the Voice).
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Yeah maybe skew young?
 
Toebash said:
I want state championships, like they have in Brazil (another country that suffers the tyranny of distance). There's a lot of positives to it:

1. Saves on travel costs;
2. Allows NPL clubs to play against A-League teams regularly and fill their coffers on larger match attendances; and
3. Most importantly, fills the calendar in a way that accommodates A-League and NPL seasons that take place in different seasons, thereby making it easier to have a joined up pyramid because the league seasons are won't overlap.
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I like the Argentinian clausura format. Quite interesting if anyone is interested in reading up on it.
 
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