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Who have the FA put in after one season of success?

I wouldn't be surprised if Popa moves back to clubland - probably in Asia after the Asian Cup. He'll be aware of the massive wickets some of his peers are on and will be thinking: Me too!

How old is Bielsa? Is he getting beyond it?

My dream team would be Herve Renard with Millsy as assistant.

I suspect you are right about Popovic and Asia. Plenty of high paying gigs to be had.

Anyone above Popovic on the list is unlikely because of cost. FA are not going to commit huge funds. From there I would have a short list of two Aussies and an AFC manager.

To me the choice is between Renard, Aloisi and Montgomery. They are all affordable, reasonably experienced, play a style I would like to see. The advantage to the two Aussies is that both know the ALM and the academies below and Aloisi at Western United and Montgomery at CCM both showed that they were happy to play with youth if they were good enough.

I suspect the FA would also look at Mark van Bommel.
 
Who have the FA put in after one season of success?

I wouldn't be surprised if Popa moves back to clubland - probably in Asia after the Asian Cup. He'll be aware of the massive wickets some of his peers are on and will be thinking: Me too!

How old is Bielsa? Is he getting beyond it?

My dream team would be Herve Renard with Millsy as assistant.
It was a general statement around the thinking. We are already talking about Milligan, but he has only had one season with the Jets. I saw something today about Aloisi. Yeah he won an A-league in 2022, and is doing well in his first season in China, but other than that, what success does he bring? Let him stay in China and develop. Not appoint someone after 20 games.

I wouldn't chase Renard. He has had some success, but he doesn't stick around. Max he has done is 3 years, but that is not often. He would also be another manager who would be coming in that doesn't fit the idea of what we should be doing, which is building a structure. He is a tournament man, which whilst that is what International primarily is, it means that he can have one tournament of success, but then be off. He won't build anything long term.
 
It was a general statement around the thinking.
You don't know the FA's thinking and as far as I can see they've never actually appointed anyone on one year's success.

Now the fans... you're dead right about the fans. They'll clutch at any success.

Cap everyone!!!
 
They're probably sounding out Tuchel right now.
If Heather Garriock and Football Australia want to go for a tactical system with greater focus on attacking whilst still retaining some aspects of Popaball then Thomas Tuchel would be the perfect shout to become the next Socceroos head coach.
 
You don't know the FA's thinking and as far as I can see they've never actually appointed anyone on one year's success.

Now the fans... you're dead right about the fans. They'll clutch at any success.

Cap everyone!!!
One can easily work out the thinking based on decisions, past and present, and the current processes and chats around appointments, and managers currently in the A-league.
 
One can easily work out the thinking based on decisions, past and present, and the current processes and chats around appointments, and managers currently in the A-league.
Yes, one can make inferences about thinking but there is still not one instance of an FA coach appointment after one year of success.

All appointments have had much experience with (arguably) plenty of success.
 
If Football Australia is serious about taking the next step after this World Cup cycle, Roger Schmidt should be at the top of the shortlist.

Not because he's the biggest name. Not because he's German. But because he's exactly the type of coach Australia has rarely had.

For years we've bounced between two extremes. On one side we've had pragmatists who prioritise structure and organisation. On the other we've had coaches with a very clear football ideology. Schmidt sits comfortably in the middle.

He's tactically flexible.

That's the biggest thing for me.

Against Japan he can press high.

Against Argentina he can defend in a compact mid-block.

Against Saudi Arabia he can dominate possession.

Against Spain he can concede the ball and attack the space.

He isn't married to one formation or one philosophy. His job is simply to find the best way to win.

International football isn't about implementing a club system over 50 games. It's about solving a different tactical problem every three months. Schmidt has shown throughout his career that he can do exactly that.

Then look at his CV.

  • Austrian Bundesliga champion.
  • Primeira Liga champion with Benfica.
  • Domestic cups and Super Cups.
  • Champions League experience.
  • Managed in Germany, Austria, Netherlands, China and Portugal.
He's won trophies in different countries and under different conditions. That matters.

More importantly, he develops players.

Australia's next cycle isn't about squeezing one last tournament out of veterans. It's about building around players like Circati, Okon-Engstler, Herrington, Beach and the next generation coming through Europe.

Schmidt has consistently improved young players wherever he's gone. That's one of the defining traits of his coaching career.

People often assume he's another "Red Bull" pressing fanatic. I don't think that's a fair assessment anymore.

Early in his career, yes.

But his Benfica side could dominate possession one week, sit deeper in Europe the next and comfortably switch between a back four and back three depending on the opponent. That's exactly the sort of adaptability international football demands.

Finally, ask yourself this:

What is Australia's identity?

We're never going to be Spain.

We're never going to be Uruguay.

We're never going to out-Brazil Brazil.

Our strength has always been adaptability, athleticism, organisation and mentality.

Roger Schmidt doesn't try to make every team play the same way.

He builds around what the squad does well.

That, to me, is what the next Socceroos coach should be.

Not a football philosopher.

Not a defensive specialist.

A problem solver.

Roger Schmidt is one of the best problem solvers available.
 
If Football Australia is serious about taking the next step after this World Cup cycle, Roger Schmidt should be at the top of the shortlist.

Not because he's the biggest name. Not because he's German. But because he's exactly the type of coach Australia has rarely had.

For years we've bounced between two extremes. On one side we've had pragmatists who prioritise structure and organisation. On the other we've had coaches with a very clear football ideology. Schmidt sits comfortably in the middle.

He's tactically flexible.

That's the biggest thing for me.

Against Japan he can press high.

Against Argentina he can defend in a compact mid-block.

Against Saudi Arabia he can dominate possession.

Against Spain he can concede the ball and attack the space.

He isn't married to one formation or one philosophy. His job is simply to find the best way to win.

International football isn't about implementing a club system over 50 games. It's about solving a different tactical problem every three months. Schmidt has shown throughout his career that he can do exactly that.

Then look at his CV.

  • Austrian Bundesliga champion.
  • Primeira Liga champion with Benfica.
  • Domestic cups and Super Cups.
  • Champions League experience.
  • Managed in Germany, Austria, Netherlands, China and Portugal.
He's won trophies in different countries and under different conditions. That matters.

More importantly, he develops players.

Australia's next cycle isn't about squeezing one last tournament out of veterans. It's about building around players like Circati, Okon-Engstler, Herrington, Beach and the next generation coming through Europe.

Schmidt has consistently improved young players wherever he's gone. That's one of the defining traits of his coaching career.

People often assume he's another "Red Bull" pressing fanatic. I don't think that's a fair assessment anymore.

Early in his career, yes.

But his Benfica side could dominate possession one week, sit deeper in Europe the next and comfortably switch between a back four and back three depending on the opponent. That's exactly the sort of adaptability international football demands.

Finally, ask yourself this:

What is Australia's identity?

We're never going to be Spain.

We're never going to be Uruguay.

We're never going to out-Brazil Brazil.

Our strength has always been adaptability, athleticism, organisation and mentality.

Roger Schmidt doesn't try to make every team play the same way.

He builds around what the squad does well.

That, to me, is what the next Socceroos coach should be.

Not a football philosopher.

Not a defensive specialist.

A problem solver.

Roger Schmidt is one of the best problem solvers available.
Great opinion, well argued. .
 
If Football Australia is serious about taking the next step after this World Cup cycle, Roger Schmidt should be at the top of the shortlist.

Not because he's the biggest name. Not because he's German. But because he's exactly the type of coach Australia has rarely had.

For years we've bounced between two extremes. On one side we've had pragmatists who prioritise structure and organisation. On the other we've had coaches with a very clear football ideology. Schmidt sits comfortably in the middle.

He's tactically flexible.

That's the biggest thing for me.

Against Japan he can press high.

Against Argentina he can defend in a compact mid-block.

Against Saudi Arabia he can dominate possession.

Against Spain he can concede the ball and attack the space.

He isn't married to one formation or one philosophy. His job is simply to find the best way to win.

International football isn't about implementing a club system over 50 games. It's about solving a different tactical problem every three months. Schmidt has shown throughout his career that he can do exactly that.

Then look at his CV.

  • Austrian Bundesliga champion.
  • Primeira Liga champion with Benfica.
  • Domestic cups and Super Cups.
  • Champions League experience.
  • Managed in Germany, Austria, Netherlands, China and Portugal.
He's won trophies in different countries and under different conditions. That matters.

More importantly, he develops players.

Australia's next cycle isn't about squeezing one last tournament out of veterans. It's about building around players like Circati, Okon-Engstler, Herrington, Beach and the next generation coming through Europe.

Schmidt has consistently improved young players wherever he's gone. That's one of the defining traits of his coaching career.

People often assume he's another "Red Bull" pressing fanatic. I don't think that's a fair assessment anymore.

Early in his career, yes.

But his Benfica side could dominate possession one week, sit deeper in Europe the next and comfortably switch between a back four and back three depending on the opponent. That's exactly the sort of adaptability international football demands.

Finally, ask yourself this:

What is Australia's identity?

We're never going to be Spain.

We're never going to be Uruguay.

We're never going to out-Brazil Brazil.

Our strength has always been adaptability, athleticism, organisation and mentality.

Roger Schmidt doesn't try to make every team play the same way.

He builds around what the squad does well.

That, to me, is what the next Socceroos coach should be.

Not a football philosopher.

Not a defensive specialist.

A problem solver.

Roger Schmidt is one of the best problem solvers available.
One of the best posts I've seen on this forum.
 
Yes, one can make inferences about thinking but there is still not one instance of an FA coach appointment after one year of success.

All appointments have had much experience with (arguably) plenty of success.
Do you always take everything so literally. I wasn't implying any coaches got hired after one year, but if you think talk about Popa or Arnie as they did with their club careers, they were definitely being spoken about as national coaches after their first season,.
 
If Football Australia is serious about taking the next step after this World Cup cycle, Roger Schmidt should be at the top of the shortlist.

Not because he's the biggest name. Not because he's German. But because he's exactly the type of coach Australia has rarely had.

For years we've bounced between two extremes. On one side we've had pragmatists who prioritise structure and organisation. On the other we've had coaches with a very clear football ideology. Schmidt sits comfortably in the middle.

He's tactically flexible.

That's the biggest thing for me.

Against Japan he can press high.

Against Argentina he can defend in a compact mid-block.

Against Saudi Arabia he can dominate possession.

Against Spain he can concede the ball and attack the space.

He isn't married to one formation or one philosophy. His job is simply to find the best way to win.

International football isn't about implementing a club system over 50 games. It's about solving a different tactical problem every three months. Schmidt has shown throughout his career that he can do exactly that.

Then look at his CV.

  • Austrian Bundesliga champion.
  • Primeira Liga champion with Benfica.
  • Domestic cups and Super Cups.
  • Champions League experience.
  • Managed in Germany, Austria, Netherlands, China and Portugal.
He's won trophies in different countries and under different conditions. That matters.

More importantly, he develops players.

Australia's next cycle isn't about squeezing one last tournament out of veterans. It's about building around players like Circati, Okon-Engstler, Herrington, Beach and the next generation coming through Europe.

Schmidt has consistently improved young players wherever he's gone. That's one of the defining traits of his coaching career.

People often assume he's another "Red Bull" pressing fanatic. I don't think that's a fair assessment anymore.

Early in his career, yes.

But his Benfica side could dominate possession one week, sit deeper in Europe the next and comfortably switch between a back four and back three depending on the opponent. That's exactly the sort of adaptability international football demands.

Finally, ask yourself this:

What is Australia's identity?

We're never going to be Spain.

We're never going to be Uruguay.

We're never going to out-Brazil Brazil.

Our strength has always been adaptability, athleticism, organisation and mentality.

Roger Schmidt doesn't try to make every team play the same way.

He builds around what the squad does well.

That, to me, is what the next Socceroos coach should be.

Not a football philosopher.

Not a defensive specialist.

A problem solver.

Roger Schmidt is one of the best problem solvers available.

I really do feel that obvious AI slop like this degrades the integrity of the forum, whether I agree with it or not.
 
Do you always take everything so literally. I wasn't implying any coaches got hired after one year, but if you think talk about Popa or Arnie as they did with their club careers, they were definitely being spoken about as national coaches after their first season,.
You were making an unfair judgment - literally - I can only go on what you said.

I have my own fairly negative views about the FA's coaching appointments but they have never made a precipitate appointment in terms of a coach's experience and success.

Anyway, let's not bore everyone else with semantics.

Herve Renard please.
 
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