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Again, I’m sure the likes of rashid etc know more about the ins and outs of football at a professional level on the field/the actual playing of the game than me, but always staggers me how surface level the knowledge of even people who supposedly know about the game in this country is. You can tell their understanding of the game off the field, the clubs, their historical context etc is very basic. Their knowledge is just a more advanced version of the guy who plays in your Sunday league team. And most of that probably has come as a result of them doing this show
To be fair, that's likely on purpose in S&B 's case; if people want historical context for instance, A-League Couch Critics by Bradley Jurd and Round Ball Australia by Lachie Avil have been known to fill that void when it comes to 🇦🇺⚽ podcasts/YT channels.
 
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To be fair, that's likely on purpose in S&B 's case; if people want historical context for instance, A-League Couch Critics by Bradley Jurd and Round Ball Australia by Lachie Avil have been known to fill that void when it comes to 🇦🇺⚽ podcasts/YT channels.
Yea there are people etc obviously, just few and far between in this country. People with a deep well rounded knowledge of the domestic game are very rare. They tend to know just about particular facets of the game they’ve interfaced with.

Bit of a laboured reference but just as an example for you grab some random bloke off the street in Glasgow who’s not even interested in football and they’ll likely have more background knowledge on hand re the old firm than what supposed football people do in this country re local football, the clubs, the dynamics, the historical context etc etc

A lot of people wouldn’t even know the ex nsl clubs from cities outside their own etc these types don’t understand or care about the difference between a south Melbourne and an oakleigh for example, in their mind they’re both just Greek backed npl clubs etc no idea about the difference between Avondale or Marconi
 
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Yea there are people etc obviously, just few and far between in this country. People with a deep well rounded knowledge of the domestic game are very rare. They tend to know just about particular facets of the game they’ve interfaced with.

Bit of a laboured reference but just as an example for you grab some random bloke off the street in Glasgow who’s not even interested in football and they’ll likely have more background knowledge on hand re the old firm than what supposed football people do in this country re local football, the clubs, the dynamics, the historical context etc.
True, in the same way that the OG clubs in this country(Balgownie, Adamstown Rosebud, South Hobart etc.) weren't given all that much consideration(until fairly recently) by those involved w/the 'effnik' clubs that superseded them after WWII. In that sense, the Australia Cup has certainly played an educational/reconciliatory role these past 12 years👏🏼
 
True, in the same way that the OG clubs in this country(Balgownie, Adamstown Rosebud, South Hobart etc.) weren't given all that much consideration(until fairly recently) by those involved w/the 'effnik' clubs that superseded them after WWII. In that sense, the Australia Cup has certainly played an educational/reconciliatory role these past 12 years👏🏼
Agreed. And many of those clubs ceased to exist unfortunately aswell.
 
And fwiw, this isn’t even an old soccer new football argument I’m making, just that very few people have a well rounded knowledge of the game in this country. Even football people
That's why Lowy and O'Neill sold us what they did from '03 onwards - stuff the game's history in this country, it's all baggage full of more defeats/tragedy than it is victories and glory. It was all about starting over from scratch, year-zero so that no one'd be in a position to feel left-out of what was being promised..
 
That's why Lowy and O'Neill sold us what they did from '03 onwards - stuff the game's history in this country, it's all baggage full of more defeats/tragedy than it is victories and glory. It was all about starting over from scratch, year-zero so that no one'd be in a position to feel left-out of what was being promised..
Arguably wouldn’t have been allowed to happen in many countries, there would have likely been a public uproar
 
Arguably wouldn’t have been allowed to happen in many countries, there would have likely been a public uproar
The point Joe Gorman made in his book re. this is that in most countries, due to âš˝ being the No.1 sport there, this clean-slate approach would've never been 'necessary' at all. A Crawford Report-style reform of the game's institutional/fiscal governance in such places yes, but not the cultural tabula rasa that was the endgame of "Old Sokkah, New Football" heređź’ˇ
 
The point Joe Gorman made in his book re. this is that in most countries, due to âš˝ being the No.1 sport there, this clean-slate approach would've never been 'necessary' at all. A Crawford Report-style reform of the game's institutional/fiscal governance in such places yes, but not the cultural tabula rasa that was the endgame of "Old Sokkah, New Football" heređź’ˇ
Imo old and new can co exist as they do in the cup. And as was shown by Perth glory or Adelaide united in the nsl etc. have said before I have no issue with the formation of new clubs like victory or Sydney fc or whatever if there’s a demand/market for them, but that need to not come at the expense of history/traditional clubs. It doesn’t have to be one or the other. Clearly at this point they’re not going anywhere as many had predicted at the time. Better off just embracing that reality
 
^On this, getting a bit off topic but will be an interesting cross over of the two eras seeing Melbourne victory and their supporters visit the Marconi club v the wanderers in the cup next week
 
Imo old and new can co exist as they do in the cup. And as was shown by Perth glory or Adelaide united in the nsl etc. have said before I have no issue with the formation of new clubs like victory or Sydney fc or whatever if there’s a demand/market for them, but that need to not come at the expense of history/traditional clubs. It doesn’t have to be one or the other. Clearly at this point they’re not going anywhere as many had predicted at the time. Better off just embracing that reality
The problem is that the FFA/APL are still trying to have their cake&eat it too, having a bet each way re. this. They've given us the Australia Cup and the Championship so they can be all "Don't say we've never done anything for you", but as long as they remain non-committed to implementing pro/rel and above all else, continue with this stubborn folly of converting 'mainstream-🇦🇺' to ⚽(regardless of how blatantly-bandwagonish/uninterested they remain en-masse) at the relative expense of the already-existing fanbase, then it's merely performative and not sincere.
 
The problem is that the FFA/APL are still trying to have their cake&eat it too, having a bet each way re. this. They've given us the Australia Cup and the Championship so they can be all "Don't say we've never done anything for you", but as long as they remain non-committed to implementing pro/rel and above all else, continue with this stubborn folly of converting 'mainstream-🇦🇺' to ⚽(regardless of how blatantly-bandwagonish/uninterested they remain en-masse) at the relative expense of the already-existing fanbase, then it's merely performative and not sincere.
Doesn’t exactly feel like they’re doing their darnedest to make sure the championship and an h/a league are a success.

Will keep saying it, Australia cup is the best comp we have in this country
 
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For context beforehand, the old boy happens to be the former president of Essendon in the AFL…
 
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