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High speed rail in Australia has a lower chance of being true then the next big push on the Western Front working in ww1.
 
JS96 said:
High speed rail in Australia has a lower chance of being true then the next big push on the Western Front working in ww1.
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Estimated costs from Newcastle to Sydney is $90 billion for the 180km.

115 kms of that is tunnels due to the challenging terrain.

Cost per km ~ $500 million.

Cost in Japan per km ~ $50 million

Cost in China per km ~ $30 million


Besides the cost one of the biggest issues is bringing a train into a central station in Sydney or Melbourne, or any city really, at hundreds of km/hr. Massive challenges.

And yes they can travel at 80km/hr until they reach the outskirts but that defeats the purpose if it takes an hour to clear the city.

A Sydney to Melbourne HSR will never be built. Newcastle to Sydney has a chance though.
 
erogenouszone said:
It will be a cold day in hell before Australia has trains like that. Also, it's just not the train but the tracks etc, you're looking at 200 billion or something like that. Australia is too short sighted and too stupid to give people proper modern infrastrucure, doesn't stop them charging top dollar for shit mind you.
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When I was a kid the XPT train was commissioned. It was supposed to be the next gen of train travel with a mooted 200km/hr top speed slashing travel times. Too bad most of the tracks in NSW were limited to 80km/hr top speed.

End result? A big fat nothing burger.
 
Something, something electric cars are communism.....

Said by someone here probably.

America is winding back investment in renewables and cars and meanwhile China's just full speed ahead.



Not going to lie. Pinched that comment from the comments.
 
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Muz said:
Something, something electric cats are communism.....

Said by someone here probably.

America is winding back investment in renewable and cars and meanwhile China's just full speed ahead.



Not going to lie. Pinched that comment from the comments.
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So it seems in China cost of electricity generation = expensive, cost of low quality battery manufacture = cheap... gottcha.
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
So it seems in China cost of electricity generation = expensive, cost of low quality battery manufacture = cheap... gottcha.
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Sorry what?

China leads the world in battery tech. By a long way. Even Musk has factories there pumping out his batteries.

Once China starts mass producing SSD batteries it's all over.
 
Yes yes I know you're not an electric car man but you and I used to own LPs and CDs. The kids won't care. In 20 years time ICE vehicles will be a distant memory or if you see them they'll have a vintage number plate.
 
Muz said:
Yes yes I know you're not an electric car man but you and I used to own LPs and CDs. The kids won't care. In 20 years time ICE vehicles will be a distant memory or if you see them they'll have a vintage number plate.
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Might want to check with those pesky kids again:

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Muz said:
Yes yes I know you're not an electric car man but you and I used to own LPs and CDs. The kids won't care. In 20 years time ICE vehicles will be a distant memory or if you see them they'll have a vintage number plate.
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Sure sure, just do me a personal favour and keep the Landie in the shed would ya?
 
erogenouszone said:
They have a shitload of coal generation with more being constructed.
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China has put down more renewables than the next 20 or so countries combined over the past few years.

In 2024 they tripled the USs investment and dwarfed the EUs.

In the past decade China has spent $1.6 trillion dollars on renewables.

It's a complete myth peddled by fossil fuel dickheads on the Murdoch payroll that China doesn't do renewables.

 
Muz said:
Whatever mate. What about transistor radios, VCRs. handicams and film cameras then?
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Dude, I know you are rural but thats NO excuse - Nostalgia wave seems endless......

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