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General A Leagues thread (Men and Women) 2025/26 season

Does the ALW have a future? With the demise of Western United and the probable loss of Canberra and the Mariners it is down to 9 teams. Add to that the apparent disinterest of the Bulls and Auckland in fielding a women’s team the future is indeed looking gloomy.
I’ve seen people say the same about the ALM. Yes, it does have a future. Western were a failed project, Canberra have always been a mess (no men’s team still) and could still stay, and I reckon Mariners will find a way out. CCM had that happen before but I don’t think they’ll go down like they did then, they’ve come a long way. A different owner for the women’s team needs to be found quickly but it may end up being good if the other owners weren’t gonna care about them. A good investor could see them challenge for silverware consistently.

Macarthur (who have an established NPLW team) are another Western United, Wollongong shoulda got their spot instead. I think we’ve learnt that our cities just can’t support more than two pro teams at the moment. Sydney and Melbourne can have two but if you look at who’s surviving it’s clear that Macarthur and Western didn’t.

Auckland only just came into the league but they really shoulda planned ahead. They’ve prioritised the OPL over a Dub team and it’s outrageous. It’s also stupid that they’re putting together a “representative women’s team” to play Chelsea when Wellington Phoenix already has a women’s team who made the grand final.
 
I’ve seen people say the same about the ALM. Yes, it does have a future. Western were a failed project, Canberra have always been a mess (no men’s team still) and could still stay, and I reckon Mariners will find a way out. CCM had that happen before but I don’t think they’ll go down like they did then, they’ve come a long way. A different owner for the women’s team needs to be found quickly but it may end up being good if the other owners weren’t gonna care about them. A good investor could see them challenge for silverware consistently.

Macarthur (who have an established NPLW team) are another Western United, Wollongong shoulda got their spot instead. I think we’ve learnt that our cities just can’t support more than two pro teams at the moment. Sydney and Melbourne can have two but if you look at who’s surviving it’s clear that Macarthur and Western didn’t.

Auckland only just came into the league but they really shoulda planned ahead. They’ve prioritised the OPL over a Dub team and it’s outrageous. It’s also stupid that they’re putting together a “representative women’s team” to play Chelsea when Wellington Phoenix already has a women’s team who made the grand final.
I like your optimism but I think the women’s game at a professional level in Australia is heading down the gurgler. 😟
 
I stand by changing it to a league w being such a stupid mistake everyone knew the w league. But at the same time people aren't going to games including me big changes needed
 
I stand by changing it to a league w being such a stupid mistake everyone knew the w league.
I really didn’t understand that change. I get that they should be equal but why not just advertise them equally? Make more content like this (yes, Jacko found this hilarious):



But at the same time people aren't going to games including me big changes needed
Sydney were getting good crowds, now we’ve flushed ourselves down the toilet. The Sydney Derby still gets a few thousand but back in 2023 we got 11,471 (which is better than some men’s crowds). Losing Cortnee Vine only for her mental health to deteriorate after barely playing at NC Courage was a big turning point.

Once upon a time we gave away players like younger versions of Aideen Keane, Sienna Saveska and Taylor Ray to other clubs cause we were too good and they weren’t playing enough. Now we haven’t made finals in two seasons and any good players we have move straight away. Even Princess Ibini left us to sit on the bench at Beşiktaş in the KSL which is a farmer's league that sucks compared to the Dub. Now we’re about to go with no Mackenzie Hawkesby and thus only one actual leader (Nat Tobin). I love our youngsters as much as everyone else here does but there needs to also be a couple of experienced players in there.
 
I really didn’t understand that change. I get that they should be equal but why not just advertise them equally? Make more content like this (yes, Jacko found this hilarious):




Sydney were getting good crowds, now we’ve flushed ourselves down the toilet. The Sydney Derby still gets a few thousand but back in 2023 we got 11,471 (which is better than some men’s crowds). Losing Cortnee Vine only for her mental health to deteriorate after barely playing at NC Courage was a big turning point.

Once upon a time we gave away players like younger versions of Aideen Keane, Sienna Saveska and Taylor Ray to other clubs cause we were too good and they weren’t playing enough. Now we haven’t made finals in two seasons and any good players we have move straight away. Even Princess Ibini left us to sit on the bench at Beşiktaş in the KSL which is a farmer's league that sucks compared to the Dub. Now we’re about to go with no Mackenzie Hawkesby and thus only one actual leader (Nat Tobin). I love our youngsters as much as everyone else here does but there needs to also be a couple of experienced players in there.

I almost feel sorry for Sydney. 🤣🤣
 
I almost feel sorry for Sydney. 🤣🤣
It’s not JUST our fault that crowds have gone down. But our decline did definitely play a part. We advertise our games quite well and unfortunately other teams don’t as much.

I recall hearing you were a Mariners fan (you can set a club on here by the way), right? Mariners should capitalise on being the only major sports team on the Coast to hook people in. If it were a local community thing that would really help grow the club.

I must say though @melbcityguy, City get some pretty crap crowds despite their success. They need a better marketing team across the men’s and women’s sides.

Overall I want the best for every club, cause clubs being run well is vital for the stability and growth of the league. Clubs folding is genuinely sad.
 
It’s not JUST our fault that crowds have gone down. But our decline did definitely play a part. We advertise our games quite well and unfortunately other teams don’t as much.

I recall hearing you were a Mariners fan (you can set a club on here by the way), right? Mariners should capitalise on being the only major sports team on the Coast to hook people in. If it were a local community thing that would really help grow the club.

I must say though @melbcityguy, City get some pretty crap crowds despite their success. They need a better marketing team across the men’s and women’s sides.

Overall I want the best for every club, cause clubs being run well is vital for the stability and growth of the league. Clubs folding is genuinely sad.
I don’t think it’s down to individual clubs necessarily, there is just this total disconnect between the Matildas following and the domestic league.
 
Does the ALW have a future? With the demise of Western United and the probable loss of Canberra and the Mariners it is down to 9 teams. Add to that the apparent disinterest of the Bulls and Auckland in fielding a women’s team the future is indeed looking gloomy.
Since the push for professionalism I've been thinking that they should reduce the numbers of women's clubs anyway.

Make the league professional and only have one team in each of the capitals, maybe two each in Melbourne and Sydney. That's eight Aussie teams plus any NZ and Tassie teams.

10 professional women's teams, 27 rounds (or 18) plus finals. Longer contracts, higher transfers, hopefully more sustainable with the growth of the women's game.
 
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