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FIFA WC 26 - Other Nations LIVE Match Thread ⚽

Yeah but that's really just 15 year olds surely? Or people that have no interest in football past the cultural phenom aspect.

Not opinions that anyone that has even a reasonable care for the game would think about.
Your second sentence is the right party. It's a bandwagon fashion thing. Some may enjoy the sport that but more but it's like PSG clothing now being a fashion statement rather than football support. These people can't name more than 5 footballers.
 
Football was NOT a working class game, at least not till the Poms finally accepted the Scot factory players coming down to England and getting paid to do so. It was very much much founded on the principles of upstairs/ downstairs Downton Abbey shite.
I'm aware the upper classes also enjoyed the game and the laws were written by those higher up. We can expect it's working class in the vast majority sense but exposure and perhaps even control from upper classes was and is there too.
 
Your second sentence is the right party. It's a bandwagon fashion thing. Some may enjoy the sport that but more but it's like PSG clothing now being a fashion statement rather than football support. These people can't name more than 5 footballers.
I mean its everywhere and especially this years WC but not really something, I would have thought, people on a football forums would even bother with.

This whole "Penaldo" vs "Pessi" shite is the cringiest dogshit Ive ever heard (and yes Im aware of it I just ignore it) ... anyone waking up at 4.45am on a cold Thursday to watch a football match would NOT be thinking about wanting Argentina to win just because they are "team Messi" and if that IS the case then Im totally bamboozled with today's society.
 
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I'm aware the upper classes also enjoyed the game and the laws were written by those higher up. We can expect it's working class in the vast majority sense but exposure and perhaps even control from upper classes was and is there too.
Apropos of nothing, not sure if youv'e seen this mini series but worth a watch if you haven't.

 
Yeah but that's really just 15 year olds surely? Or people that have no interest in football past the cultural phenom aspect.

Not opinions that anyone that has even a reasonable care for the game would think about.
Nah. Not just 15 year olds. We can talk as much as we want about it's not certain people, but football has not been for football fans for at least the last 5 years.
 
Nah. Not just 15 year olds. We can talk as much as we want about it's not certain people, but football has not been for football fans for at least the last 5 years.
If your referring to FIFA selling out to Trump and the Middle East oil barons, thats not really a surprise FIFA have been corrupt idiots, on a trajectory of fat cat capitalism, for decades now. As for the whole "content creation", social engineering, mind control dogshit, I guess I refuse to have it as part of my life so I chose to ignore it... Focus on the football people everything else is irrelevant. Football is still alive, if you want to find it.
 
If your referring to FIFA selling out to Trump and the Middle East oil barons, thats not really a surprise FIFA have been corrupt idiots, on a trajectory of fat cat capitalism, for decades now. As for the whole "content creation", social engineering, mind control dogshit, I guess I refuse to have it as part of my life so I chose to ignore it... Focus on the football people everything else is irrelevant. Football is still alive, if you want to find it.
Not just that. Pay attention to the "fans". Who is in the venues, who get's the tickets, the rise of the social influencer in the game...You can't ignore it, because it's what controls most of it.

Sure, you can go to your local club and enjoy football away from all that. However, what I initially said still holds true. Many care more about the individual than they do the team.
 
I'm aware the upper classes also enjoyed the game and the laws were written by those higher up. We can expect it's working class in the vast majority sense but exposure and perhaps even control from upper classes was and is there too.
Interestingly, in France the upper classes looked down on football for decades longer than they did in England. Nowadays the stigma has faded, with even President Emmanuel Macron (who grew up upper-middle class) being a football fan (at club level he supports Marseille from the South despite being from the North).
 
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