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tsf said:
They do that thing where nothing comes as a fucking meal now. You need to pay extra for everything

The pub the other day wanted me to pay an extra $1 for sauce on the already overpriced chips. I mean, it's a $1 but wtf
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Yep...You’ve hit the nail on the head. I've heard the term..."opportunist retail"

And that is exactly what it feels like and in many cases, that’s exactly what it is.

There is a distinct shift happening where it feels less like "hospitality" and more like a high-stakes transaction. When you walk up to a counter and see a menu where every basic item has been unbundled so they can charge you $6 for a few mushrooms, it stops feeling like a relaxed morning ritual and starts feeling like you're being well and truly nickel-and-dimed....
 
LFC said:
as they say the apples doesn't fall far from the tree :)
We christened our Pop the $2 shop man - and here we are called a tight arse hahaha I put my hands UP LOL.........

Fark I am not going to pay those OTT prices regularly like F u l says costs you 2bob if done at home.
Don't get me wrong I have now and then and regret it in spades thinking ffs what a rort.
I'd sooner spend that kind of dough on good bottle of red that I do with sheer drinking pleasure :)
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Every business gotta make money ... Sure eggs, bacon at home , no problem but then count the cost of the gas to cook, it , the electricity for the fridge and the lights to be able to see to cook, the rent or mortgage and rates, the insurance on the house, the cost of the frying pan and plates.. The new oven and cooktop... don't even begin to mention the jewelry and flowers we have to buy the missus every bloody birthday, Christmas and anniversary so she can cook the damn thing.... may as well go out everyday its CHEAPER hahahaahahaahaahaahah
 
Football us life said:
Yep...You’ve hit the nail on the head. I've heard the term..."opportunist retail"

And that is exactly what it feels like and in many cases, that’s exactly what it is.

There is a distinct shift happening where it feels less like "hospitality" and more like a high-stakes transaction. When you walk up to a counter and see a menu where every basic item has been unbundled so they can charge you $6 for a few mushrooms, it stops feeling like a relaxed morning ritual and starts feeling like you're being well and truly nickel-and-dimed....
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The other thing that shits me, I ordered a pint at the bar - bar service. The cunt hand over the eftpos machine and goes 'follow the prompts' - with a fucking tip screen.

I wanted one fucking pint mate. And you're making me work for it, and you want a tip.

Sometimes they are their own worst enemies. As you say a distinct shift from "hospitality"
 
tsf said:
They bring it in a fancy side dish lol. I love mixing it in my eggs at home though.
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Here's the other thing....

Cafe I went to this morning wasn't just fancy dishes....

The two girls working there were looking like they’re waiting on an model agency callback, so I wasn't just paying for the eggs and bacon, It felt more lIke a premium tax to sit inside and.watch a fashion show!

Post- hipster Brisbane is crawling with these kinds of curated places now.

That $39 price tag is essentially a cover charge for the scene. They know exactly what they are doing.
 
Football us life said:
Here's the other thing....

Cafe I went to this morning wasn't just fancy dishes....

The two girls working there were looking like they’re waiting on an model agency callback, so I wasn't just paying for the eggs and bacon, It felt more lIke a premium tax to sit inside and.watch a fashion show!

Post- hipster Brisbane is crawling with these kinds of curated places now.

That $39 price tag is essentially a cover charge for the scene. They know exactly what they are doing.
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I think some in depth video analysis is required here.....
 
tsf said:
The other thing that shits me, I ordered a pint at the bar - bar service. The cunt hand over the eftpos machine and goes 'follow the prompts' - with a fucking tip screen.

I wanted one fucking pint mate. And you're making me work for it, and you want a tip.

Sometimes they are their own worst enemies. As you say a distinct shift from "hospitality"
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Tipping seems to be the latest scam err I mean trend in hospitality....

Australia has never really had a tipping culture. The system here was deliberately built so that diners didn’t have to subsidise staff wages at the register. That’s what Australia's high minimum awards are for.

The way it’s being forced on us now is as fucken sneaky as it gets!

You go to pay for a takeaway coffee– a transaction that took 30 seconds – and the staff member hands you the EFTPOS terminal. Before you can even tap your card, the screen prompts you with:

Tip 10%
Tip 15%
Tip 20%
Custom / No Tip

It creates this awkward psychological standoff. The staff member is looking at you, you’re looking at the screen, and you have to actively press "No" just to pay the advertised price for your food. It feels like a emotional tax on just being a customer.

Very cuntish!!
 
Football us life said:
Tipping seems to be the latest scam err I mean trend in hospitality....

Australia has never really had a tipping culture. The system here was deliberately built so that diners didn’t have to subsidise staff wages at the register. That’s what Australia's high minimum awards are for.

The way it’s being forced on us now is as fucken sneaky as it gets!

You go to pay for a takeaway coffee– a transaction that took 30 seconds – and the staff member hands you the EFTPOS terminal. Before you can even tap your card, the screen prompts you with:

Tip 10%
Tip 15%
Tip 20%
Custom / No Tip

It creates this awkward psychological standoff. The staff member is looking at you, you’re looking at the screen, and you have to actively press "No" just to pay the advertised price for your food. It feels like a emotional tax on just being a customer.

Very cuntish!!
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Why is it emotional, I look them in the eye when I press NO TIP... unless they deserve it, then I give a $10 or a $20 to the server in their hand personally.
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
Every business gotta make money ... Sure eggs, bacon at home , no problem but then count the cost of the gas to cook, it , the electricity for the fridge and the lights to be able to see to cook, the rent or mortgage and rates, the insurance on the house, the cost of the frying pan and plates.. The new oven and cooktop... don't even begin to mention the jewelry and flowers we have to buy the missus every bloody birthday, Christmas and anniversary so she can cook the damn thing.... may as well go out everyday its CHEAPER hahahaahahaahaahaahah
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stop being too logical there ya bastardo hahaha
makes sense but you know doesn't work that way lol
 
Football us life said:
Tipping seems to be the latest scam err I mean trend in hospitality....

Australia has never really had a tipping culture. The system here was deliberately built so that diners didn’t have to subsidise staff wages at the register. That’s what Australia's high minimum awards are for.

The way it’s being forced on us now is as fucken sneaky as it gets!

You go to pay for a takeaway coffee– a transaction that took 30 seconds – and the staff member hands you the EFTPOS terminal. Before you can even tap your card, the screen prompts you with:

Tip 10%
Tip 15%
Tip 20%
Custom / No Tip

It creates this awkward psychological standoff. The staff member is looking at you, you’re looking at the screen, and you have to actively press "No" just to pay the advertised price for your food. It feels like a emotional tax on just being a customer.

Very cuntish!!
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yes agree all this - get the customer to do this for the employee.
Our salaries here are beyond most in EU for eg work ya bastardo.
FU - NO tip unless I'm at a exxy place that does kiss my feet - oh hang the Mrs's isn't with me then its cash cash cash hahalol....

Also all this menu QR codes today - gtfo another let the customer do the work then I see emails all the time - another piss off.
 
Football us life said:
Tipping seems to be the latest scam err I mean trend in hospitality....

Australia has never really had a tipping culture. The system here was deliberately built so that diners didn’t have to subsidise staff wages at the register. That’s what Australia's high minimum awards are for.

The way it’s being forced on us now is as fucken sneaky as it gets!

You go to pay for a takeaway coffee– a transaction that took 30 seconds – and the staff member hands you the EFTPOS terminal. Before you can even tap your card, the screen prompts you with:

Tip 10%
Tip 15%
Tip 20%
Custom / No Tip

It creates this awkward psychological standoff. The staff member is looking at you, you’re looking at the screen, and you have to actively press "No" just to pay the advertised price for your food. It feels like a emotional tax on just being a customer.

Very cuntish!!
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It's like when cash was more prevalent the bar tender putting the change onto a small silver tray and thinking that's going to guilt me into leaving a tip. Good luck with that.
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
Every business gotta make money ... Sure eggs, bacon at home , no problem but then count the cost of the gas to cook, it , the electricity for the fridge and the lights to be able to see to cook, the rent or mortgage and rates, the insurance on the house, the cost of the frying pan and plates.. The new oven and cooktop... don't even begin to mention the jewelry and flowers we have to buy the missus every bloody birthday, Christmas and anniversary so she can cook the damn thing.... may as well go out everyday its CHEAPER hahahaahahaahaahaahah
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You're including a lot of sunk costs in there that do not necessarily have anything to do with your brekfast. The rent or mortgage and rates, the insurance on the house, don't even begin to mention the jewelry and flowers we have to buy the missus every bloody birthday, Christmas and anniversary.
 
patjennings said:
You're including a lot of sunk costs in there that do not necessarily have anything to do with your brekfast. The rent or mortgage and rates, the insurance on the house, don't even begin to mention the jewelry and flowers we have to buy the missus every bloody birthday, Christmas and anniversary.
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hahaha sure, but a fraction of the costs DO going into facilitating the production of that breakfast.. Cant cook a meal at home without the "home" part.... :) If the local cafe could make your bacon and eggs in YOUR home and didnt have rent, staff, equipment, utilities to pay for Im sure he would not charge as much :P
 
erogenouszone said:
It's like when cash was more prevalent the bar tender putting the change onto a small silver tray and thinking that's going to guilt me into leaving a tip. Good luck with that.
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I thought that was to make it easier to sort through the coins and take the gold ones and 50s leaving the shrapnel? hahahah
 
erogenouszone said:
It's like when cash was more prevalent the bar tender putting the change onto a small silver tray and thinking that's going to guilt me into leaving a tip. Good luck with that.
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Exactly! These days we've got the digital equivalent of that classic, passive-aggressive silver tray move.

Back then, they’d put the change down, look at you, look at the coins, and give it a little nudge. The whole play was to make it as socially awkward as possible for you to scoop up every single coin and slide them back into your pocket.

The modern EFTPOS screen is just that silver tray, but digitised and amplified by 100. Instead of quietly pocketing your two-dollar coin, you now have to look a human being in the eye while your index finger explicitly presses a button that says "No Tip" in bright, bold letters. It’s pure psychological warfare.

And the "good luck with that" attitude is the only correct Australian response!!

The silver tray trick didn't work on the older generation, and the guilt-trip terminal shouldn't work on us now. The moment we start feeling awkward and giving in just to avoid a three-second side-eye is the moment the American model wins, and menu prices sure as hell won't go down if we start paying the staff's wages directly.
 
Football us life said:
Tipping seems to be the latest scam err I mean trend in hospitality....

Australia has never really had a tipping culture. The system here was deliberately built so that diners didn’t have to subsidise staff wages at the register. That’s what Australia's high minimum awards are for.

The way it’s being forced on us now is as fucken sneaky as it gets!

You go to pay for a takeaway coffee– a transaction that took 30 seconds – and the staff member hands you the EFTPOS terminal. Before you can even tap your card, the screen prompts you with:

Tip 10%
Tip 15%
Tip 20%
Custom / No Tip

It creates this awkward psychological standoff. The staff member is looking at you, you’re looking at the screen, and you have to actively press "No" just to pay the advertised price for your food. It feels like a emotional tax on just being a customer.

Very cuntish!!
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No, scam is the correct word to use .....
 
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