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We weren't to know how Volpato would mature in a mentality sense. We were pretty poor back when we thought he was going to be a golden goose. We then went on to have our most successful world cup and have a lot of depth.

In saying that we're not a settle squad with tactics that don't use our best attacking assets and we've gone through that many players that it's still unclear what the plan even is.
 
I understand this point of view, but I think it doesn't fully cover the complexity of national identity. Should the children of refugees from wars in the Balkans or the Middle East not be able to represent the country of their origin? I think that would be harsh. I like the current system, to be honest.
They can but realistically you should be helping football in YOUR country. But if you’re never making the Socceroos but could start for Iraq then go for it.
 
They can but realistically you should be helping football in YOUR country. But if you’re never making the Socceroos but could start for Iraq then go for it.
If loyalty is divided it becomes a game of upgrade downgrade. You see it all the time with players taking the second option once the big nation isn't possible.
 
Possibly but I don’t know. Australia has a lot of immigrants but not a lot of emigrants, meaning heaps of people move here but not many of us leave, and when Aussies do live overseas (e.g Aussies in London or New York) they generally come back. The rest of the Pacific does but mostly to nearby countries like Australia and NZ, e.g. 15% of New Zealand’s population lives in Australia but few Kiwis live elsewhere.

Compare this to England where we have a lot of permanent English migrants in Australia and millions of Aussies with English descent, so while many are too far back (or even way too far back) to play for England, many Aussies technically could be picked for England (or other British nations, i.e Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales, plus the Republic of Ireland which isn’t in the UK of course). Other European groups like Italians are similar, since tens of millions of Italians are in the diaspora (including 1.1 million Italian Australians). Most Italian diaspora in Australia are still eligible for Italy but the next generation won’t be (e.g Cristian Volpato is eligible through his grandparents so if he has kids then his kids won’t be eligible for Italy unless they’re born or live there), and most Italian Americans aren’t eligible for Italy as Italian immigration there game earlier.

If we look at migration trends the new countries we’ll be fighting for players from are African, Arab and Asian countries. Asian Australians aren’t typically known to succeed in football though (possibly as some countries like China and India aren’t good at football, and the Japanese aren’t a massive community here compared to the Chinese and Indians as like Australia few Japanese feel the need to leave Japan). I guess the next Asian prodigy in Australia will probably be a Korean in that case (as South Korea do have major success in football, even if, like Japan, baseball is their biggest strength)? Wataru Kamijo is Japanese AND Korean.
There are estimated to be 160,000 Australians living in England. A lot of immigration and emmigration between the two over the decades going back to the 10 pound pom days. Within that two generation period to be relevant. That means relationships and kids as people travel between the two. I expect there to be other Souttars out there we have no idea about. I think it would pay to be more proactive looking for those players.
 
There are estimated to be 160,000 Australians living in England. A lot of immigration and emmigration between the two over the decades going back to the 10 pound pom days. Within that two generation period to be relevant. That means relationships and kids as people travel between the two. I expect there to be other Souttars out there we have no idea about. I think it would pay to be more proactive looking for those players.
Yeah but that’s of a population of 27 million. If you take Scots for example there are tens of millions more Scots outside Scotland than in it.
 
Yeah but that’s of a population of 27 million. If you take Scots for example there are tens of millions more Scots outside Scotland than in it.
Thats just how many Australian citizens are estimated there atm. That to-and-fro is happening every year. I'd expect the number of people in England who have an Australian parent or grand parent would be much much higher than that number.
 
Thats just how many Australian citizens are estimated there atm. That to-and-fro is happening every year. I'd expect the number of people in England who have an Australian parent or grand parent would be much much higher than that number.
Yeah but it’s still not as high as the other way around or for other countries. Everyone’s worth a look of course but immigration over emigration is something that puts us in a different situation to European countries. Almost half of Aussies have at least one parent who was born overseas (even higher here in Sydney) so plenty of Aussies can be capped by European countries, but not so many Europeans can be capped by Australia. Though you are right that the UK (mainly London) does have more Aussies (numbers-wise not per capita) than anywhere else in the world outside Australia.
 
Considering he's currently not a dual national as sweet as this hit is should it be in a different group?

Life let's you down enough to be constantly reminded :LOL:
I mean he’s an Aussie capped for another national team. I would say he counts as a dual international, just isn’t eligible for the Socceroos anymore.
 
I mean he’s an Aussie capped for another national team. I would say he counts as a dual international, just isn’t eligible for the Socceroos anymore.
What are you saying? We confiscate his passport. Ban him from reentering the country?

What ever it takes, I’m all for it. 😁

Or, let’s start a new thread ā€œTreasonist Scum Who Shame Us: Highlights Since They Leftā€
 
Teng Kuol is in the South Sudan squad for the first time along with a few others that have been capped previously.

There is also a Dor Jok that has been named, I’m not sure it’s the same one that played for CCM a few years back
 
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