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Australia Cup (Historical Hypotheticals)

NicCarBel

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One of my boredom projects that's popped into my head as part of my pyramid/database, is I kind of want to envision a national "Round of 32" for the Australia Cup, as if it existed in the past (in as close to it's current format as possible).

Results obtained either via Wikipedia, or SoccerAust.Co.Uk


I'm going to start with 1971 as an example - for reasons that will become evident by the time I'm finished this first post

Essentially, I will be sticking to the 2026 Australia Cup allocations where possible:
  • ACT - 1
  • Nth NSW - 2
  • NSW - 4
  • NT - 1
  • QLD - 4
  • SA - 2
  • TAS - 1
  • VIC - 4
  • WA - 2
This does obviously leave 11 spots left to redistribute, as there was no NSL yet, so through the lovely mathematics of ChatGPT - trying to keep the same distribution percentages:
  • ACT - 2
  • Nth NSW - 3
  • NSW - 5
  • NT - 2
  • QLD - 6
  • SA - 3
  • TAS - 2
  • VIC - 6
  • WA - 3
Next dilemma is, from what I have gathered of information, there was no cup competition in NT at this time (earliest record I have is 2006), so adjusting for removing NT:
  • ACT - 2
  • Nth NSW - 3
  • NSW - 7
  • QLD - 6
  • SA - 3
TAS - 2
  • VIC - 6
  • WA - 3
Now, we have to determine exactly which competitions would count. This is the conclusion I've come to, based off records available online:
  • ACT - Federation Cup
  • NSW - Waratah Cup
  • VIC - Dockerty Cup
  • Nth NSW - Ampol Cup
  • WA - D'Orsogna Cup
  • TAS - Milan Lakoseljac Cup (may have been called the Ampol Cup that season as well)
  • QLD - QLD Qantas Cup
  • SA - Federation Cup (probably called the Ampol Cup)
Next issue that I've gotten, is that Nth NSW's Ampol Cup for 1971 only has the Final listed. As I can't see who the semi-finalists were, I'm now going to give the 3rd Nth NSW spot to Victoria (plus, it also helps even it up with NSW).
  • ACT - 2
  • Nth NSW - 2
  • NSW - 7
  • QLD - 6
  • SA - 3
  • TAS - 2
  • VIC - 7
  • WA - 3
Alright, now lets get some placements in:
  • ACT
    • 2 Federation Cup finalists
  • Nth NSW
    • 2 Ampol Cup finalists
  • TAS
    • 2 Milan Lakoseljac Cup finalists
Now, things get a little tricky with the rest of the states, for a variety of reasons:
  • as the final qualifiers won't be matched up to rounds. In these instances, I'm labelling all the possible clubs in these spots.
  • Also, it looks like some comps aren't exactly synced with records.

  • SA
    • No third place playoff, so both semi finalists have been listed with an asterick, as only one would qualify for the national stage
  • WA - D'Orsogna Cup
    • No third place playoff, so both semi finalists have been listed with an asterick, as only one would qualify for the national stage
  • QLD - Qantas Cup
    • Only the semi final results onwards were available, so have had to reduce QLD from 6 to 4. These slots will be given to VIC and NSW to get a nice clean 8 each.
  • VIC - Dockerty Cup
    • 8 quarter finalists
  • NSW
    • 8 quarter finalists
FULL TABLE OF QUALIFIERS
StateClubQualificationCurrent Status (as of 2026)
NSWHakoah Eastern SuburbsWaratah Cup winnersHakoah Sydney City East - NSW League One
NSWSouth Sydney CroatiaWaratah Cup runner upSydney United 58 - National Premier League NSW
NSWPragueWaratah Cup semi finalistMerged with SSC Yugal in 1973, which dissolved in 1992
NSWRydeWaratah Cup semi finalistUnknown - could be Ryde Panthers (NSW - North West Sydney Division 2)
NSWBellambiWaratah Cup quarter finalistNSW - South Coast Premier League 3
NSWSt George BudapestWaratah Cup quarter finalistSt George FC - National Premier League NSW
NSWAPIA LeichardtWaratah Cup quarter finalistNational Premier League NSW
NSWPan HellenicWaratah Cup quarter finalistSydney Olympic - National Premier League NSW
VICJuventusDockerty Cup winnersBrunswick Zebras - VIC State League 3 North-West
VICFootscray JUSTDockerty Cup runner upDissolved as part of takeover in 1990. Melbourne City (not the A-League one) formed out of the takeover (VIC State League 5 North-West)
VICSunshine CityDockerty Cup semi finalistMerged with George Cross in 1983, to become what is now Caroline Springs George Cross (National Premier League Victoria)
VICKeilor CityDockerty Cup semi finalistMerged with Central Altona in 1979, now known as Altona Magic (National Premier League Victoria)
VICHakoahDockerty Cup quarter finalistMerged with South Melbourne in 1982 (National Premier League Victoria)
VICRingwood City WilhelminaDockerty Cup quarter finalistRingwood City - VIC State League 4 South-East
VICPoloniaDockerty Cup quarter finalistWestern Eagles - VIC State League 2 North-West
VICFitzroy United AlexanderDockerty Cup quarter finalistHeidelberg United - National Premier League Victoria
QLDAzzurriQantas Cup winnersBrisbane City - National Premier League Queensland
QLDBardon LatrobeQantas Cup runner upQLD Premier League 4 Metro
QLDGrange ThistleQantas Cup third placeQLD Premier League 2
QLDHollandia-InalaQantas cup fourth placeLions FC - National Premier League QLD
SAAdelaide JuventusSA Federation Cup winnersAdelaide City - National Premier League SA
SAWest Adelaide HellasSA Federation Cup runner upWest Adelaide - National Premier League SA
SAElizabeth City * SA Federation Cup semi finalistSome form of merger that resulted in Playford City Patriots (National Premier League SA)
SAPolonia Adelaide * SA Federation Cup semi finalistCroydon FC - National Premier League South Australia
WAAzzurriD'Orsogna Cup winnerMerged with East Fremantle Tricolore and Balcatta Etna to Form Perth Italia SC in 1987. Now known as Perth Azzurri SC (National Premier League WA)
WAOlympicD'Orsogna Cup runner upOlympic Kingsway - National Premier League WA
WASwan Valley * D'Orsogna Cup semi finalistWA Amateur League Division 2
WACracovia * D'Orsogna Cup semi finalistWA Amateur League Division 1
Nth NSWNew Lambton SouthNorthern NSW Ampol Cup winnersunsure - appears to be separate to 'New Lambton Eagles' that currently competes in Northern NSW League One
Nth NSWAdamstown RosebudNorthern NSW Ampol Cup runners upNational Premier League Northern NSW
TASHobart JuventusMilan Lakoseljac Cup winner
Became Hobart Zebras, and merged with Clarence United to form Clarence Zebras in 2019 (National Premier League Tasmania)
TASMetro ClaremontMilan Lakoseljac Cup runner upMetro FC - TAS Southern Championship 1
ACTGriffith UnitedFederation Cup winnersYes, THAT Griffith - this was a joint Hanwood and Yoogali team formed to take part in ACT competitions (Hanwood competes in the Wagga Wagga First Grade Pascoe Cup, while Yoogali competed in National Premier League ACT until the end of 2025, and is taking a sabbatical season in 2026 due to its removal by Capital Football. The bulk of the playing squad signed with Griffith City FC, also competing in the Wagga Wagga First Grade Pascoe Cup)
ACTForrest UnitedFederation Cup runner-upBecame Concordia, and merged into Canberra City in 1989 (Capital Football Division 3)
 
Draw for Round of 32
  • WA Third Place (Swan Valley v Cracovia) v APIA Leichardt
  • West Adelaide Hellas v Prague
  • Hobart Juventus v Footscray JUST
  • Forrest United v Adamstown Rosebud
  • Metro Claremont v Grange Thistle
  • Griffith United v Hollandia-Inala
  • Pan Hellenic v New Lambton South
  • Bellambi v South Sydney Croatia
  • Keilor City v Polonia
  • Bardon Latrobe v Ringwood City Wilhelmina
  • Ryde v Fitzroy United Alexander
  • Juventus v Hakoah Eastern Suburbs
  • Azzurri (Brisbane) v Hakoah
  • SA Third Place (Elizabeth City v Polonia Adelaide) v Sunshine City
  • St George Budapest v Adelaide Juventus
  • Olympic v Azzurri (Perth)
 
No merger involved to produce Playford City.

In 2000 Elizabeth City went into voluntary administration, and was immediately reconstituted as Playford City Patriots.
Thank you - their history page 404’d, so I wasn’t able to find the full details, but at least I got the club right hahaha
 
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