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Decentric said:
Not wanting to digress, but often NPL players have a better life over a life span than pro players.

NPL players often have careers as well. When they retire from football, life does not change much, like it does for former pros in a range of sports, who don't have a trade or profession.

Many former pro sportspersons suffer from depression. The moment they retire, they often become nobodies, or just the average person on the street. Coaches stop contacting them - so do club officials, media, other players, etc. Social networks disappear - unless coaching.

Of course very rich players who've had many seasons in the UEFA Big Five are pretty wealthy, and can live off sage investments for the rest of their life.
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VERY good point... An ex player of ours Milos Luic was seriously good enough to play Aleague and in fact had been approached 3-4 times over his career... 4 times golden boot winner in NPL VIC after all.. He was quite content to be a teacher here in Melbourne and play football as a "side hustle" and make a few bucks on the side.. Admittedly the money he would have been making in NPL and his day job would have been well above anything an Aleague club could have offered him I suppose.
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
VERY good point... An ex player of ours Milos Luic was seriously good enough to play Aleague and in fact had been approached 3-4 times over his career... 4 times golden boot winner in NPL VIC after all.. He was quite content to be a teacher here in Melbourne and play football as a "side hustle" and make a few bucks on the side.. Admittedly the money he would have been making in NPL and his day job would have been well above anything an Aleague club could have offered him I suppose.
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It's a different world now with AL finances.

A senior teacher makes about $100 - 120 k these days and a really good NPL player would make what... $100 k max? No idea really.

A top AL player (especially a striker) would still make significantly more than that. Wouldn't they?
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
VERY good point... An ex player of ours Milos Luic was seriously good enough to play Aleague and in fact had been approached 3-4 times over his career... 4 times golden boot winner in NPL VIC after all.. He was quite content to be a teacher here in Melbourne and play football as a "side hustle" and make a few bucks on the side.. Admittedly the money he would have been making in NPL and his day job would have been well above anything an Aleague club could have offered him I suppose.
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I remember him. CCM were looking at him but as you said his teacher salary and NPL money (along with the fact that teaching was what he would return to) made his decision quite easy.
 
JS96 said:
Getting annoying. Sunderland have mid depth. Triantis is good but they'll go with experience first. Derby would've been excellent.
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Disagree. I think they're still making up their minds about him but, at the same time, value him a lot higher than 1.2 mill.
 
patjennings said:
I remember him. CCM were looking at him but as you said his teacher salary and NPL money (along with the fact that teaching was what he would return to) made his decision quite easy.
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Anyone would have to be certifiably insane to give up a well paid career for A League BUT there is such a shortage of teachers that it is one profession that you COULD just walk back into. Maybe he didn't fancy the endless training, chasing a ball every day. TBH that was why I gave up the game. I reached the point, at 20, where I found training repetitive and boring. I could do that OR I could go skiing on weekends. I was in a semi pro league so the money wasn't an attraction. In the end, I had to choose, and I chose skiing. It was more fun and I had weeknights to myself. You really, really have to want to be a professional. You can see how joyless the game is for so many pro players.
 
Oh I didn't realise it was a transfer fee offered. 1.2M is robbery so no wonder. Sunderland would only accept that if they added a massive sell on percentage. A player with a Greek flag would probably not develop at a young age in Scotland but any player with that flag on their profile with his potential would fetch at least 6M from an EPL club.
 
Mr Cleansheets said:
Disagree. I think they're still making up their minds about him but, at the same time, value him a lot higher than 1.2 mill.
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He's been featuring in practice games so he's not totally out of it. Injuries and suspensions will come not to mention Sunderland should be a bit more physical and will need the depth. Their defence has a few injuries currently. A Championship loan would be good for this season.
 
JS96 said:
He's been featuring in practice games so he's not totally out of it. Injuries and suspensions will come not to mention Sunderland should be a bit more physical and will need the depth. Their defence has a few injuries currently. A Championship loan would be good for this season.
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I think he's good enough to come into consideration for first 11 action.
 
Frankly Speaking said:
I think he's good enough to come into consideration for first 11 action.
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He's certainly good enough and is probably there mentally already. We won't know until it happens. I guess managers are just a bit concerned about awareness at that level but some players also thrive on it.
 
Frankly Speaking said:
Anyone would have to be certifiably insane to give up a well paid career for A League BUT there is such a shortage of teachers that it is one profession that you COULD just walk back into. Maybe he didn't fancy the endless training, chasing a ball every day. TBH that was why I gave up the game. I reached the point, at 20, where I found training repetitive and boring. I could do that OR I could go skiing on weekends. I was in a semi pro league so the money wasn't an attraction. In the end, I had to choose, and I chose skiing. It was more fun and I had weeknights to myself. You really, really have to want to be a professional. You can see how joyless the game is for so many pro players.
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Yes - he could walk back in. But unless he had a stellar football career and didn't need to return to teaching he would be years behind his cohort in his chosen career. Add the fact that football can be a short term career cut short by injury and can often mean moving away from family it becomes a pretty easy choice to make a little coin on the weekend doing something you love. To make the opposite choice you would need to be pretty confident in your ability to take your game to another level and become a star in Australia or even OS and then also have the drive to make the choice. He seemed to be on a good wicket.
 
JS96 said:
He's been featuring in practice games so he's not totally out of it. Injuries and suspensions will come not to mention Sunderland should be a bit more physical and will need the depth. Their defence has a few injuries currently. A Championship loan would be good for this season.
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Portsmouth looks like a good place to go.
 
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