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A-League Mens 25/26 - Round 13

Who cares if it's blocking the goalie that's his problem it's a silly rule imo and it crossed off a great goal
 
FeedTheBrox said:
I like this.

Let fans of other clubs ridicule us if they like, but I want the club to communicate their views with the fans when it comes to controversial incidents that impact games.

Many of us spend a lot of money travelling to Adelaide every year and it’s not unreasonable to expect the officiating to be fair. As a regular traveller to Adelaide, we have been on the wrong end of many bad decisions over the years. Was this one the worst I have seen? No, I could probably list 3 or 4 that was worse.

On top of that, what Caroline is saying is correct. The VAR has been highly inconsistent this season (not just for us). And this needs to be corrected. Mark Milligan has been pretty vocal about this in his press conferences.

I would say I am a big supporter of the VAR, but they need to revert to what it was originally intended for… clear and obvious errors.
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The VAR was and still is for clear and obvious errors - with the exception of the offside law which is a binary decision. You are either offside or not.
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
Didn't see the match but going on this image alone mate its pretty clearly offside, even if the ball was tucked in on the keeprs left, the #23 is still in his line of site...

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The positioning of Jelacic means the keeper can do nothing to improve his view of the emerging threat either.

If he moves closer to the near post Jelacic blocks his view completely.

But simplest of all - the ball goes from Jelacic's left side to Jelacic's right, into the goal. So at some point his body is actually blocking the keeper's view of the ball. No grey area there.

That's blatant offside.

My question is why MV aren't accepting that Jelacic made a very poor decision to wander across the keeper in an offside position anyway. 4 minutes to decide suggests the officials were looking as hard as they could to allow the goal not to deny it since a first glance at the replay screams interference by Jelacic.
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
Im sorry you don't like the laws of football but its not open for discussion. Its just the way it is... I dont get what the outrage was, did something similar happen to the other team playing and it was allowed?
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Actually in a game involving these two teams a few years back, Adelaide had a goal disallowed for the exact same thing.
 
AUFC_Fan said:
Actually in a game involving these two teams a few years back, Adelaide had a goal disallowed for the exact same thing.
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Well, then I get the outrage from MV....

What was the significance of the goal was this a crucial match for position or something? Relegation battle, to get into finals... I can get how fans get upset if they feel robbed, I have felt the same a thousand times, but at the end of the day decision seems clear to me as a total unbiased outsider.
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
Well, then I get the outrage from MV....

What was the significance of the goal was this a crucial match for position or something? Relegation battle, to get into finals... I can get how fans get upset if they feel robbed, I have felt the same a thousand times, but at the end of the day decision seems clear to me as a total unbiased outsider.
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To get into the top 6, yes
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
Well, then I get the outrage from MV....

What was the significance of the goal was this a crucial match for position or something? Relegation battle, to get into finals... I can get how fans get upset if they feel robbed, I have felt the same a thousand times, but at the end of the day decision seems clear to me as a total unbiased outsider.
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Mono - both goals were disallowed. The decision is consistent in that regard.
 
NoMates said:
CCM only pulled in 1k crowd once again, and once again i predicted it. 6 months tops!
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I'd be bragging about the Nix win you tipped more than the crowd on an unexpectedly postponed by flooding, rainy day fixture.
 
AUFC_Fan said:
Actually in a game involving these two teams a few years back, Adelaide had a goal disallowed for the exact same thing.
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Are you referring to the one Antonis Pagonis posted on twitter? ROFF. What a ridiculous comparison 😂
 
The VAR itself worked as expected. Jelecic was in the field of play hence VAR asked the ref to review the goal. The final decision was made by the ref, not the assistant ref nor the fourth official. And this should be a biter lesson for Jelacic, as a pro footballer he should know better. And that also applies to all AL players.
 
dr. bellows said:
Eventually AI will make VAR decisions, and do so in a nano-second. How many interruptions and how many decisions taken out of the referees' hands will be questions for the future.
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I don't think it really will.

The simple geometry of onside or not is a perfect automated issue, but the judgement of 'being involved' can never be black and white in sport.

There has to be that 'human' involvement to gauge a situation based on experience and human understanding. I can't see a professional league, with the money that is swallowed up by it, being 'simplified' to an AI determination. Sure, it could do it with enough learning, but like cricket - having the technology should never be endorsed by all and sundry as a replacement for good old human error and judgement (in whichever order you deem most appropriate).
 
RIMB said:
I don't think it really will.

The simple geometry of onside or not is a perfect automated issue, but the judgement of 'being involved' can never be black and white in sport.

There has to be that 'human' involvement to gauge a situation based on experience and human understanding. I can't see a professional league, with the money that is swallowed up by it, being 'simplified' to an AI determination. Sure, it could do it with enough learning, but like cricket - having the technology should never be endorsed by all and sundry as a replacement for good old human error and judgement (in whichever order you deem most appropriate).
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I think there'll be human involvement on the field, off the field not so much to eventually not at all. But I'm not talking about next season.
 
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