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Monoethnic Social Club said:
Another excellent pod mate and congrats an getting an actual board member to front up. Like you, all respect to Joseph for answering the hard questions, but I have to say the whole thing left me even more disillusioned with FA than previously.

My read is that they are focused on generating a massive database of clients (probably to monetise) and ensuring they have a healthy budget surplus to the detriment of actual football outcomes... NOT what I want or expect from my football federation.

The gaslighting of AAFC and how the FA board would rather engage with clubs rather than a organisation set up by 35 of these so called club is quite disappointing. Your questions around NST expansion and WHAT actual metrics are being assessed for this first season were met with platitudes round the growth of the women's game and a lame justification of how the voting block of FA is structured in a fair and transparent way.... I saw you get very agitated with the slight on economists btw, not dissimilar to how us down in the weeds outside the APL tent feel when we hear about how little regard the "suits" have for the actual needs of anyone NOT feeding from the trough.

Pro/Rel will NEVER be a reality in this country with the APL... For those yet sceptical, an FA board member is STILL parroting the 2034 protectionism clause.....

Best we can ever hope for is a fleshing out of the complete pyramid under the Australian Championship and an organic growth for 99% of our participants...
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Thanks! There were some silver linings - nst exceeding metrics (though Nathan Godfreys ESPN article mentions transfers as a metric it will be judged by and we will have to wait for that), them willing to go ahead without QLD if needed and them being open to a football foundation. We will see. In the end credit to him for coming on, I don't recall any time in history a board member has been willing to be subjected to that line of questioning

I think we need an english style system of congress, redistribute half the apl votes to npl clubs and redistribute member fed votes to local districts who in turn are each elected by a handful of grassroots clubs. Would get much more focus on grass roots and p&r if we did that. He said that we need a change in culture not a change in system, maybe, but I wasn't convinced. How we get there I don't know. Need fan protest and probably government intervention
 
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Really enjoyable most recent episode how Football 360 is there for positive opportunities and something of a transition to a much more modern way of reporting and following the game while not forgetting the traditions.
 
I’m just way behind on the Podcasts.

I’ve been away, and had a lot of games to watch on replay. I’ve got heaps of Socceroo stats to calculate. Don’t drive the dog to distance walks, as he has gone to the big kennel in the sky. I’ve got overdue painting, ironing, dusting, gardening jobs to do, so should have a listen then.

Have a 4 day Shield match to watch live for cricket starting tomorrow. Plus beer events. I’m too busy in retirement!

I enjoy most of the Podcasts immensely too!

Can’t play the Podcasts in the car on distance drives with my long suffering better half, as she is fed up of football, cricket and craft beer as conversation topics!
 
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Finally got to the pod. I could've listened earlier but I actually wanted to watch this one because it helps detecting sincerity.

Excellent probing questions by Pete and yourself Graham, and sometimes ballsy haha, but everyone very respectful.

Great to have Joseph, answers seemed genuine even if some weren't what we want to hear. But good to finally hear some of what FA are thinking.

He seemed frustrated that Queensland didn't come on board for the Championship, and quite hungry for them to come to the table. They really want it to be another national league, which is great, but also makes me think there won't be pro/rel with anything below (or above until 2034 at the least). He did seem to suggest something along the lines of 'people power' a few times as a way to get things done.

I get the impression that FA are taking a very, very cautious approach with the Championship, wanting the clubs and the competition to grow sustainably in every way, mostly financially. And they aren't that bothered that other clubs couldn't afford the fee because they don't want any of them falling over. I suppose there's a history around the world or commencing leagues with the richest clubs.

Did I hear Joseph say that FA are actually paying SBS to broadcast the tournament? That's impressive.

Also, on that English charity fund you mentioned Graham, and Joseph said he met with the FA early days and talked about it. I wonder what has stopped him since then from developing or suggesting something like that at FA? Seems like a good initiative that could've been implemented a while ago. Fingers crossed he looks into it again.

Anyway. Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant pod. I am again very impressed with yourself Graham and Pete, really professional interviewing skills from both of you. And my thanks to Joseph for standing up when no one else from APL or FA seem to. It also surprised me about what he said about previous governance of just "money in, money out" and no forward thinking financially or nuts for the winter!
 
HappyGuus said:
Finally got to the pod. I could've listened earlier but I actually wanted to watch this one because it helps detecting sincerity.

Excellent probing questions by Pete and yourself Graham, and sometimes ballsy haha, but everyone very respectful.

Great to have Joseph, answers seemed genuine even if some weren't what we want to hear. But good to finally hear some of what FA are thinking.

He seemed frustrated that Queensland didn't come on board for the Championship, and quite hungry for them to come to the table. They really want it to be another national league, which is great, but also makes me think there won't be pro/rel with anything below (or above until 2034 at the least). He did seem to suggest something along the lines of 'people power' a few times as a way to get things done.

I get the impression that FA are taking a very, very cautious approach with the Championship, wanting the clubs and the competition to grow sustainably in every way, mostly financially. And they aren't that bothered that other clubs couldn't afford the fee because they don't want any of them falling over. I suppose there's a history around the world or commencing leagues with the richest clubs.

Did I hear Joseph say that FA are actually paying SBS to broadcast the tournament? That's impressive.

Also, on that English charity fund you mentioned Graham, and Joseph said he met with the FA early days and talked about it. I wonder what has stopped him since then from developing or suggesting something like that at FA? Seems like a good initiative that could've been implemented a while ago. Fingers crossed he looks into it again.

Anyway. Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant pod. I am again very impressed with yourself Graham and Pete, really professional interviewing skills from both of you. And my thanks to Joseph for standing up when no one else from APL or FA seem to. It also surprised me about what he said about previous governance of just "money in, money out" and no forward thinking financially or nuts for the winter!
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Thanks for the kind words! Was indeed impressed he came on when the apl haven't in the past

I do wonder what their attitude is towards "people power". I know sometimes political parties can get frustrated that the protesting stops once they are in power, protesting gives them permission to push further in the direction they want to go.
I missed the part about FA paying SBS, what part of the pod was that?

I definitely want to see the football foundation take off here, was glad he was interested and would like to see it happen
 
I just finished listening to the Joseph Carrozzi pod, took a little while because I was listening over a few 20-30 minute car trips.

It was a great interview, and while credit has to be given to Carrozzi for giving up so much time and answering all that was asked, I felt quite frustrated by the end that he is one of the top people in the game in this country and is governing the game. This is because I very much got the impression that he sees football in Australia through a businessman's eyes (and even more concerning than that, an accountants eyes), and he seemed to me not to have any real passion for the game. He came across to me as quite transactional. My concern is that the rest of the FA board sees things the same way.

I thought that his knowledge of some things left a lot to be desired. I can't remember all the examples, but one I can is that he didn't know the year when the A League clubs had been promised "no relegation" as part of their licence (he said he though it might have been 2032, but wasn't sure). Not a big deal in itself, but one of a number of times where it seemed to me that his knowledge was not at the level that I would hope that a board member who was passionate about improving the game, would be right on top of the detail.

I thought he quite rudely dismissed the views of the football economists on pro-rel, and well done Grazor on pulling him up on that. I was also concerned about his answers around the member federations - if his answers reflect the views of the FA board then I don't think they are engaging enough with the member feds and pushing them to improve their performance. When questioned about FQ standing in the way of Qld clubs joining the NST, his answers were poor, saying he knew nothing of the Sunshine Coast Fire situation, and saying that as far as he knew FQ had no problem with clubs wanting to join NST. In fact, FQ put barriers up for clubs potentially joining NST, by putting into their by-laws or other official documentation that if a club that joined the NST and was later removed from NST (e.g., relegation or withdrawing), then that club could only rejoin the FQ competitions at the lowest possible league level. That is, the club could not drop back into NPL, but would be forced to go back to FQPL6.
 
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Keeper66 said:
I just finished listening to the Joseph Carrozzi pod, took a little while because I was listening over a few 20-30 minute car trips.

It was a great interview, and while credit has to be given to Carrozzi for giving up so much time and answering all that was asked, I felt quite frustrated by the end that he is one of the top people in the game in this country and is governing the game. This is because I very much got the impression that he sees football in Australia through and businessman's eyes (and even more concerning than that, an accountants eyes), and he seemed to me not have any real passion for the game. He came across to me as quite transactional.

I thought that his knowledge of some things left a lot to be desired. I can't remember all the examples, but one I can is that he didn't know the year when the A League clubs had been promised no relegation as part of their licence (he said he though it might have been 2032, but wasn't sure). Not a big deal in itself, but one of a number of times where it seemed to me that his knowledge was not at the level that I would hope that a board member who was passionate about improving the game would be right on top of the detail.

I thought he quite rudely dismissed the views of the football economists that were mentioned, and well done Grazor on pulling him up on that. I als
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"Dysfunctional" perfectly sums up the old Soccer Australia but "Transactional" is the perfect descriptor for FFA and now FA... :(
 
Keeper66 said:
I just finished listening to the Joseph Carrozzi pod, took a little while because I was listening over a few 20-30 minute car trips.

It was a great interview, and while credit has to be given to Carrozzi for giving up so much time and answering all that was asked, I felt quite frustrated by the end that he is one of the top people in the game in this country and is governing the game. This is because I very much got the impression that he sees football in Australia through a businessman's eyes (and even more concerning than that, an accountants eyes), and he seemed to me not to have any real passion for the game. He came across to me as quite transactional. My concern is that the rest of the FA board sees things the same way.

I thought that his knowledge of some things left a lot to be desired. I can't remember all the examples, but one I can is that he didn't know the year when the A League clubs had been promised "no relegation" as part of their licence (he said he though it might have been 2032, but wasn't sure). Not a big deal in itself, but one of a number of times where it seemed to me that his knowledge was not at the level that I would hope that a board member who was passionate about improving the game, would be right on top of the detail.

I thought he quite rudely dismissed the views of the football economists on pro-rel, and well done Grazor on pulling him up on that. I was also concerned about his answers around the member federations - if his answers reflect the views of the FA board then I don't think they are engaging enough with the member feds and pushing them to improve their performance. When questioned about FQ standing in the way of Qld clubs joining the NST, his answers were poor, saying he knew nothing of the Sunshine Coast Fire situation, and saying that as far as he knew FQ had no problem with clubs wanting to join NST. In fact, FQ put barriers up for clubs potentially joining NST, by putting into their by-laws or other official documentation that if a club that joined the NST and was later removed from NST (e.g., relegation or withdrawing), then that club could only rejoin the FQ competitions at the lowest possible league level. That is, the club could not drop back into NPL, but would be forced to go back to FQPL6.
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Sorry, accidentally hit Post Reply, before I finished. Have edited and added the rest.
 
Keeper66 said:
I just finished listening to the Joseph Carrozzi pod, took a little while because I was listening over a few 20-30 minute car trips.

It was a great interview, and while credit has to be given to Carrozzi for giving up so much time and answering all that was asked, I felt quite frustrated by the end that he is one of the top people in the game in this country and is governing the game. This is because I very much got the impression that he sees football in Australia through a businessman's eyes (and even more concerning than that, an accountants eyes), and he seemed to me not to have any real passion for the game. He came across to me as quite transactional. My concern is that the rest of the FA board sees things the same way.

I thought that his knowledge of some things left a lot to be desired. I can't remember all the examples, but one I can is that he didn't know the year when the A League clubs had been promised "no relegation" as part of their licence (he said he though it might have been 2032, but wasn't sure). Not a big deal in itself, but one of a number of times where it seemed to me that his knowledge was not at the level that I would hope that a board member who was passionate about improving the game, would be right on top of the detail.

I thought he quite rudely dismissed the views of the football economists on pro-rel, and well done Grazor on pulling him up on that. I was also concerned about his answers around the member federations - if his answers reflect the views of the FA board then I don't think they are engaging enough with the member feds and pushing them to improve their performance. When questioned about FQ standing in the way of Qld clubs joining the NST, his answers were poor, saying he knew nothing of the Sunshine Coast Fire situation, and saying that as far as he knew FQ had no problem with clubs wanting to join NST. In fact, FQ put barriers up for clubs potentially joining NST, by putting into their by-laws or other official documentation that if a club that joined the NST and was later removed from NST (e.g., relegation or withdrawing), then that club could only rejoin the FQ competitions at the lowest possible league level. That is, the club could not drop back into NPL, but would be forced to go back to FQPL6.
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well covered Kepper66.

There's good general discussion in the P/R thread about our game's "handbrakes" so to speak covering a variety of things.
Now as mentioned by all of us, we sincerely appreciate anyone putting the time aside from their busy schedules ie J Carrozzi and Thankyou.
For it gave us the opportunity to hear from our Governance outlook from his perspective and only so far he could feel to say which is understandable.
I hope he comes back on again might I add another time.

Going back to "handbrake" - sounds like we are our own worse enemy up above.
We have suspected this :(
 
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Well we've talked about Pascuali openning up another fund raiser - time you got a GGFC polo Graz :) or hoody haha OR a tattoo for all viewers to see lol.....
 
LFC said:
Well we've talked about Pascuali openning up another fund raiser - time you got a GGFC polo Graz :) or hoody haha OR a tattoo for all viewers to see lol.....
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would love a g&g polo

I put the g&g theme music at the end of a physics talk to see if anyone noticed the other day
 
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