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Promotion and Relegation is vital for Football in Australia

BA81 said:
One only need look at the fact that Gold Coast United doesn’t use its ALeague-era logo for nigh-certainly this very reason:

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exactly right... Thats why all this talk of WU "surviving" in NPL land as a sort of hiatus is moot, IF the FA yank their license, its their WHOLE identity that is taken away, Womens team, mens and juniors teams, everything... Avondale will just have to paint over the WU signs in the offices and change rooms and done and dusted.
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
exactly right... Thats why all this talk of WU "surviving" in NPL land as a sort of hiatus is moot, IF the FA yank their license, its their WHOLE identity that is taken away, Womens team, mens and juniors teams, everything... Avondale will just have to paint over the WU signs in the offices and change rooms and done and dusted.
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Those italians are more likely to just change strip colour to green and black, claim that they the new sassuolo, and save the outlay on the paints... guaranteed they will return the marquee to bunnings for their money back! 🤣
 
Whats the go with Preston crowds?

Struggling to get a couple of thousand after the initial burst to start the season.
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
Maybe they are preparing for life when they drop down into the Aleague? It happened to Perth crowds didn't it?
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Incorrect, crowds actually went up. Only after endless years of mediocrity on the pitch and a clown owner crowds began to dip.

Preston flavour of the month, now back to the norm. Hellas vs Preston few weeks back under 4k. Not good.
 
biggiemic said:
Incorrect, crowds actually went up. Only after endless years of mediocrity on the pitch and a clown owner crowds began to dip.

Preston flavour of the month, now back to the norm. Hellas vs Preston few weeks back under 4k. Not good.
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6K+ put keep clutching dem straws brother....

Has Glory broken their all time regular season attendance against South yet? its been a couple of decades?
 
BA81 said:
One only need look at the fact that Gold Coast United doesn’t use its ALeague-era logo for nigh-certainly this very reason:

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They look practically the same though? Doesn't look any different from any other club's logo update. Or was that a tongue-in-cheek post and it went over my head haha?
 
HappyGuus said:
They look practically the same though? Doesn't look any different from any other club's logo update. Or was that a tongue-in-cheek post and it went over my head haha?
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Point being that the reason why GCU can’t use their old A-League logo is because the FFA(if not the APL, despite that body not yet existing during GCU’s time in the ALM) owns the logo’s IP/trademark..
 
BA81 said:
Point being that the reason why GCU can’t use their old A-League logo is because the FFA(if not the APL, despite that body not yet existing during GCU’s time in the ALM) owns the logo’s IP/trademark..
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Yeah I'd love to know the reasoning behind it, something about business I guess. Is it a big deal though, drastically affecting anything? You can have an almost identical logo, name, colours, everyone knows the people and identity are the same. I don't know, it doesn't really bother me.

Some people are very militaristic about club histories, and legally they might be correct. But when 99% of the club continues on, only missing a piece of legal paper, it seems a petty way of robbing these clubs of their history.
 
HappyGuus said:
Well, that should shut a few people up who think it can't work! Probably one of my favourite all-time podcasts, so much detail from an expert on the subject. Nothing stopping us from implementing it. Congratulations guys on the episode!

@grazorblade did you tell Stefan that there's a job available and to put his CV in? https://footballaustralia.com.au/about/jobs
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couldve gone for hours he has a real wealth of knowledge. He agreed to do an ask me anything
 
HappyGuus said:
Well, that should shut a few people up who think it can't work! Probably one of my favourite all-time podcasts, so much detail from an expert on the subject. Nothing stopping us from implementing it. Congratulations guys on the episode!

@grazorblade did you tell Stefan that there's a job available and to put his CV in? https://footballaustralia.com.au/about/jobs
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Mate I don't think ANYONE in Australian Football thinks it can't work... its just a bunch of rich crunts that hold the game hostage that dont wont to even chance losing their investments.... Its gonna take a brave 1-2 franchise owners to pull out of the Alegaue for anything meaningful to ever happen here.
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
Mate I don't think ANYONE in Australian Football thinks it can't work... its just a bunch of rich crunts that hold the game hostage that dont wont to even chance losing their investments.... Its gonna take a brave 1-2 franchise owners to pull out of the Alegaue for anything meaningful to ever happen here.
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That's probably a great question for Stefan for his next Q&A, HOW do we go about getting these people to relinquish some power for the betterment of Australian football? And if they don't budge, is the anti-competition legal angle a legitimate tactic?
 
HappyGuus said:
That's probably a great question for Stefan for his next Q&A, HOW do we go about getting these people to relinquish some power for the betterment of Australian football? And if they don't budge, is the anti-competition legal angle a legitimate tactic?
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Well why do you bother HG ?
IF the FA had the balls and putting the game ahead of their postions as they should in the first place (they are there to serve US/the how many registered players) you would do everything you can to support the Championship to grow over the 2yrs, in the meantime have the Div 3 blueprint and process on the go so as those next 10/15 clubs are ready with resource - structures to follow suit !
No different to any new brand that needs to establish itself behind the leader, in this case the closed comp, come up from the rear and surprise them riding the growth curve, in time something got to give :) the APL and rich owners either broker a deal with the FA or ride on their bank accounts and broadcast deals.
Not that hard TBH.
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
Mate I don't think ANYONE in Australian Football thinks it can't work... its just a bunch of rich crunts that hold the game hostage that dont wont to even chance losing their investments.... Its gonna take a brave 1-2 franchise owners to pull out of the Alegaue for anything meaningful to ever happen here.
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"anyone" have you been to a league reddit :D

to be honest I was skeptical because of the travel until a few years ago and did some heavy number crunching. So I think there are sincere skeptics out there. One day I should put all the evidence that it would work in Australia in one document
 
HappyGuus said:
That's probably a great question for Stefan for his next Q&A, HOW do we go about getting these people to relinquish some power for the betterment of Australian football? And if they don't budge, is the anti-competition legal angle a legitimate tactic?
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honestly I think people should form a lobby group to get the government involved and change the voting and government structure of football in Australia. Long shot of working, but more likely to work than doing nothing

I'd be involved and happy to collect evidence. Not sure if there are people out there with the bandwidth to organize though
 
grazorblade said:
honestly I think people should form a lobby group to get the government involved and change the voting and government structure of football in Australia. Long shot of working, but more likely to work than doing nothing

I'd be involved and happy to collect evidence. Not sure if there are people out there with the bandwidth to organize though
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Can tell you there'll be a few clubs/stakeholders in Canberra interested in that - at least locally.. Especially after the past week - let alone months
 
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