Your second sentence is the right party. It's a bandwagon fashion thing. Some may enjoy the sport that but more but it's like PSG clothing now being a fashion statement rather than football support. These people can't name more than 5 footballers.
It wasn't exactly the "friendliest" of games... lol But it was two way traffic from what I watched.
I'm aware the upper classes also enjoyed the game and the laws were written by those higher up. We can expect it's working class in the vast majority sense but exposure and perhaps even control from upper classes was and is there too.
I mean its everywhere and especially this years WC but not really something, I would have thought, people on a football forums would even bother with.
Apropos of nothing, not sure if youv'e seen this mini series but worth a watch if you haven't.
Watched and it was great! Worth another watch.
Nah. Not just 15 year olds. We can talk as much as we want about it's not certain people, but football has not been for football fans for at least the last 5 years.
If your referring to FIFA selling out to Trump and the Middle East oil barons, thats not really a surprise FIFA have been corrupt idiots, on a trajectory of fat cat capitalism, for decades now. As for the whole "content creation", social engineering, mind control dogshit, I guess I refuse to have it as part of my life so I chose to ignore it... Focus on the football people everything else is irrelevant. Football is still alive, if you want to find it.
Not just that. Pay attention to the "fans". Who is in the venues, who get's the tickets, the rise of the social influencer in the game...You can't ignore it, because it's what controls most of it.
Interestingly, in France the upper classes looked down on football for decades longer than they did in England. Nowadays the stigma has faded, with even President Emmanuel Macron (who grew up upper-middle class) being a football fan (at club level he supports Marseille from the South despite being from the North).
Yeah its blatantly obvious, especially this WC... You could tell the Argentinians who had "sold the car" and flown cattle class to watch the little master were vastly out numbered by the jean cargo shorted Yank, his peroxide wife and two kids with perfect grins and freshly ironed Messi jerseys... I was bitching just this morning to a friend that now every single camera cutaway tot he crowd was to some "celebrity", most of who I had no idea who they were... It was only 1-2 world cups ago that these cutaways were almost a competition by the cameraman to find the "bounciest" pretty girl in a bikini top or the craziest passionate fan in a wacky costume. I know the game (at the top end) has sold its soul.... Thats why this WC and the previosu one feelt so meh....
I could go for that
I think we need to understand what gentlemanly means. One definition: "A gentleman rests on his elbows and a lady dammit doesn't move."
