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Poppa Out

riquelmes_laces said:
You don't necessarily need to have a household/elite name as manager. I doubt many people know who Roger Schmidt is, but he'd be a great option for the NT and probably would come for that kind of money.
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I don’t disagree; if anything the issue is the suits’ lack of broad ⚽️ knowledge, and their aforementioned apparent reluctance to consider any foreigner for the job.

Not sure what he’s up to these days but the Colombian Alejandro Restrepo is someone I’d seek out - he’s a relatively-young coach w/some command of English(not that that’s a dealbreaker for mine) who coached Pereira to their maiden Colombian national title in 2022 - for context he did so with a squad entirely comprised of locals(sh1thouse ones by their standards, at that), and of particular relevance to us is that the Colombian title is decided by a finals-series, not by who finishes top of the table.
riquelmes_laces said:
As others have pointed out, we probably don't have the money to pay that sort of salary and we are virtually stuck with our local crop. If Steve Corica is successful at Yokohama, he probably becomes another obvious choice.
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Yeeeeah let’s not get ahead of ourselves…
 
BA81 said:
I don’t disagree; if anything the issue is the suits’ lack of broad ⚽️ knowledge, and their aforementioned apparent reluctance to consider any foreigner for the job.

Not sure what he’s up to these days but the Colombian Alejandro Restrepo is someone I’d seek out - he’s a relatively-young coach w/some command of English(not that that’s a dealbreaker for mine) who coached Pereira to their maiden Colombian national title in 2022 - for context he did so with a squad entirely comprised of locals(sh1thouse ones by their standards, at that), and of particular relevance to us is that the Colombian title is decided by a finals-series, not by who finishes top of the table.

Yeeeeah let’s not get ahead of ourselves…
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Love a hidden gem manager.

Will look him up.

Yes hard to trust the suits at the boardroom table to get it right.
 
It's all a bit premature, isn't it? Poppa gets a draw against Paraguay and he's one step away from equalling our best ever finish.

I don't love his mindset to be honest but on the plus side he's been brave and achieved a level of player exposure and renewal we haven't seen in a very long time. I think he's deeply pragmatic. He wants to be in total tactical control which could explain some timidity in first halves. Perhaps players being more focussed on not messing up than getting on the front foot.

Whatever happens next, I think it's a retrograde step to be looking for overseas managers. It's been a long time since Cranky Franky was the default pick because Soccer Australia was broke. Lots of Australian coaches are emerging as viable options.
 
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riquelmes_laces said:
It will always take a hefty salary to pry away a manager (and his staff) from choosing international football over club football. Even Kevin Muscat would be taking a large salary cut to become the NT manager.

The economics of international football are just completely different to club football.

If the FA are serious and want us to really progress, then you need to set aside anywhere between €2.5–4m/year for a NT manager.

You don't necessarily need to have a household/elite name as manager. I doubt many people know who Roger Schmidt is, but he'd be a great option for the NT and probably would come for that kind of money.

As others have pointed out, we probably don't have the money to pay that sort of salary and we are virtually stuck with our local crop. If Steve Corica is successful at Yokohama, he probably becomes another obvious choice.
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Reported Benfica salary after 2023 renewal: about €4 million net per year for 2023/24. Portuguese outlet Record reported he had previously been near €3 million net/year and became Benfica’s highest-paid coach.

That is 6.5 million AUD. This is why it is so tough. Never heard of Schmidt, resume looks nice. Way out of our price range.

The silver lining is compared to 2007, I feel like Australian coaches have progressed.
 
Even with foreign coaches, aim for an upcoming coach that wants to prove to himself? They will see the Australian job as not only tempting but as a way of forging their careers.

They will not want a lot of money as well given they won’t have a lot of demand unlike the elite ones.

Otherwise stick to a local coach.
 
Barca4life said:
Even with foreign coaches, aim for an upcoming coach that wants to prove to himself? They will see the Australian job as not only tempting but as a way of forging their careers.

They will not want a lot of money as well given they won’t have a lot of demand unlike the elite ones
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Hence why one of Restrepo’s level of clout would be realistic-enough if not ideal.
 
Punchanello said:
Whatever happens next, I think it's a retrograde step to be looking for overseas managers. It's been a long time since Cranky Franky was the default pick because Soccer Australia was broke. Lots of Australian coaches are emerging as viable options.
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If by 'viable' you mean affordable, then yeah there’s no disputing that.

On merit though? I can’t agree.
 
We have good players so eventually I want to see a coach with more pragmatic attack while maintaining our defensive assets. Popovic holds skilled players back.
 
JS96 said:
Popovic holds skilled players back.
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I’ll go as far as to suggest he’s (at least mildly)jealous of their level of ability compared to his own as a player. I thought the same about Arnie too, albeit not to the same extent.
 
Punchanello said:
It's all a bit premature, isn't it? Poppa gets a draw against Paraguay and he's one step away from equalling our best ever finish.

I don't love his mindset to be honest but on the plus side he's been brave and achieved a level of player exposure and renewal we haven't seen in a very long time. I think he's deeply pragmatic. He wants to be in total tactical control which could explain some timidity in first halves. Perhaps players being more focussed on not messing up than getting on the front foot.

Whatever happens next, I think it's a retrograde step to be looking for overseas managers. It's been a long time since Cranky Franky was the default pick because Soccer Australia was broke. Lots of Australian coaches are emerging as viable options.
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I think this thread reared its ugly head because of the fallout with the USA game.

The stats posted by football360, albeit from a very small sample size (2 games), doesn't make for good reading.

I'd say most fare minded people would say we are too far on the defensive end of the spectrum where it is stifling our attacking options whilst also limiting our potential. The same can be said if we are too far in the other direction where our backline would be all too often exposed.

People want balance and a manager who can see different phases of game state and be able to respond to it/change something rather than keep doing the same old trick, which most of the time gets found out by elite level managers.
 
I wouldn't mind Poppa if he had a plan B.

Plan fails to defend? Ok we have a formation we can change to that we have practiced to give us more chance attacking and to better chase the game.

But no he has no plan B. We still stick with the back 5 even when chasing games.

He's the opposite of Ange and they are both as bad as each when it comes to tactical inflexibility.
 
Like take Okon at the half time interview. Dude was like... yeah we're kinda fucked we can't lose our shape.

Absolute no plan B tactically to change things up if our original plan does not work.
 
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