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It's more fun to put someone on ignore then if they may or may not be replying to you about something then it's watching someone through 6 inch thick one way glass pounding it who can see you but wondering why you're not answering.
 
"Police have been granted special powers under terrorism legislation in preparation for the visit to Melbourne on Thursday of Israeli President Isaac Herzog.
The powers allow police to stop and search vehicles or people in public places, seize items and detain people as a preventative measure."


WTF
 
Muz said:
You hate brown people so much you want to tell your brain to not believe what your eyes saw.

I bet you're just itching to call him a 'domestic terrorist'.

No one is going to think less of you if you said ' yeah well the cops did go a little berko there' because anyone with a functioning set of eyes and a brain can see what happened.

FFS
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Berets the type of guy to call everyone every possible fascist racist term he can think of, but if he got denied service for wearing his SS uniform, he'd call it discrimination, and start a go fund me for the legal campaign.
 
tsf said:
"Police have been granted special powers under terrorism legislation in preparation for the visit to Melbourne on Thursday of Israeli President Isaac Herzog.
The powers allow police to stop and search vehicles or people in public places, seize items and detain people as a preventative measure."


WTF
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So absolutely NOTHING different than the already existing right Police have to search and or detain people and or vehicles as per the past how many decades.

Key Aspects of Vehicle Searches in Australia:
  • Reasonable Suspicion: This must be based on specific facts, not just a "hunch". It includes suspecting the vehicle was used in an offence or contains illicit items.
  • Warrantless Search Powers: Under laws like the Law Enforcement (Powers and Responsibilities) Act 2002 (NSW), police may stop and search vehicles in public places if they reasonably suspect the above.
  • Consent: If police ask to search your car, you can refuse. However, if you consent, an otherwise unlawful search becomes lawful. It is advised to politely decline if you do not want them to search, but you must not physically interfere with a search.
  • Drug Dogs: In NSW, police generally need a warrant to use drug detection dogs to search a car in a public street, except in designated areas like Kings Cross.
  • Detention: Police can detain a vehicle to conduct a search. If stopped, you can ask if you are being detained or are free to leave

Carry on with your outrage.
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
So absolutely NOTHING different than the already existing right Police have to search and or detain people and or vehicles as per the past how many decades.

Key Aspects of Vehicle Searches in Australia:
  • Reasonable Suspicion: This must be based on specific facts, not just a "hunch". It includes suspecting the vehicle was used in an offence or contains illicit items.
  • Warrantless Search Powers: Under laws like the Law Enforcement (Powers and Responsibilities) Act 2002 (NSW), police may stop and search vehicles in public places if they reasonably suspect the above.
  • Consent: If police ask to search your car, you can refuse. However, if you consent, an otherwise unlawful search becomes lawful. It is advised to politely decline if you do not want them to search, but you must not physically interfere with a search.
  • Drug Dogs: In NSW, police generally need a warrant to use drug detection dogs to search a car in a public street, except in designated areas like Kings Cross.
  • Detention: Police can detain a vehicle to conduct a search. If stopped, you can ask if you are being detained or are free to leave

Carry on with your outrage.
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a- posting 'wtf' is outrage in your world? A little unhinged there
b - it's completely different to every example you just used :ROFLMAO:

Maybe read the new powers and re-compare them

And please focus on Victorian Laws with your next ai search.
 
They need no reasonable suspicion, no consent, you are not allowed to ask to leave, no warrant.

So as I said, nothing like the examples you used

"detain people as a preventative measure.""
 
tsf said:
a- posting 'wtf' is outrage in your world? A little unhinged there
b - it's completely different to every example you just used :ROFLMAO:

Maybe read the new powers and re-compare them

And please focus on Victorian Laws with your next ai search.
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Indeed it WAS an Google search, but if it is Victoria and a more considered repsone you want:

In Victorian law since 1990 mate... see page 29, cops could ALWAYS detain and search on suspicion of a weapon, I don't really care what the langauge around these "new laws" has changed it as a politcal agenda, it amounts to the same thing.
www.legislation.vic.gov.au

Control of Weapons Act 1990

www.legislation.vic.gov.au www.legislation.vic.gov.au

Bottom line is if you don't put yourself in a position where you're actions could in any way remotely be considered as having the possibility of violence, odds are that you probably won't get detained by the jacks....
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
Bottom line is if you don't put yourself in a position where you're actions could in any way remotely be considered as having the possibility of violence, odds are that you probably won't get detained by the jacks....
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Totally irrelevant.

They can just round you up for the hell of it now.

No reason. No cause.
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
They ALWAYS could mate....... ALWAYS, just like they could search your car ....
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They could not detain you without suspicion or cause, purely 'as a preventative measure'. This is a slippery slope.

As I said, it's nothing like the examples you used. This is new unchartered territory. If you're happy cool, but let's see how this pans out....
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
Indeed it WAS an Google search, but if it is Victoria and a more considered repsone you want:

In Victorian law since 1990 mate... see page 29, cops could ALWAYS detain and search on suspicion of a weapon, I don't really care what the langauge around these "new laws" has changed it as a politcal agenda, it amounts to the same thing.
www.legislation.vic.gov.au

Control of Weapons Act 1990

www.legislation.vic.gov.au www.legislation.vic.gov.au

Bottom line is if you don't put yourself in a position where you're actions could in any way remotely be considered as having the possibility of violence, odds are that you probably won't get detained by the jacks....
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Spot on last paragraph !!!!
Where’s there’s smoke there is fire !
Don’t reckon go there and complain once you’ve been sorted out !
When riot squad have been actioned is because prior problems and warnings !
They do not feck around with concerns like general duty cops - plan and simple and Known !
Whinge about any law idgaf - doesn’t effect good law abiding citizens that are the majority !
 
"odds are you probably won't get detained'

So yeah, breaking down this flimsy statement you easily could for doing fuck all in the future.

Any protest...one against taxes, one against corruption, one against turkey, one about cyprus,
 
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tsf said:
They could not detain you without suspicion or cause, purely 'as a preventative measure'. This is a slippery slope.

As I said, it's nothing like the examples you used. This is new unchartered territory. If you're happy cool, but let's see how this pans out....
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Im not fussed either way... I 100% believe police should have the power to detain and search somebody they suspect is breaking the law. Shit it happened on a couple of occasions to me in my wilder youth....
Did I agree with it at the time? Of course not.
Did they always pull me over becuase they had a "resonable suspicion" and not JUST ebcuase they saw a long hairded wog in a hotted up car and wanted to bust his chops,? Of course not...

THATS my point.. cops could AWLAYS hide behind the we have "reasonble suspicion"
 
Absolutely perfect. There's these blokes on here every day.

I believe Iran was brought up though not Myanmar 'if you care so much'.

 
tsf said:
"odds are you probably won't get detained'

So yeah, breaking down this flimsy statement you easily could for doing fuck all in the future.

Any protest...one against taxes, one against corruption, one against turkey, one about cyprus,
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Bullshit.. I have marched on Turkish embassy, on Parliament house and in two massive rallys against the naming issue in Macedonia.... and have NEVER had a policeman so much as frown my way... Every protest p[peaceful, organised, and most importantly respectful..

If you don't fuck around, you wont find out....
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
THATS my point.. cops could AWLAYS hide behind the we have "reasonble suspicion"
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They could not detain, even under that. Now they can, without that.

Also, road laws are different.

Literally, cops can take you off the street and into a cell now. For nothing.

It's wild people agree with this. And they rage against communists....sounds just like them.
 
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tsf said:
They could not detain, even under that. Now they can, without that.

Also, road laws are different.

Literally, cops can take you off the street and into a cell now. For nothing.

It's wild people agree with this. And they rage against communists....sounds just like them.
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OK, Ill call you if I get detained... I DO still get my phone call yeah?
 
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