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Robbos said:
Again misreading the room.

We are hating on the genocide of 1 country, irrespective of what that country is.
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Well, maybe they should not have started something that they could not finish. BTW, apparently their is plenty of Genocide happening in other countries, but we see no mention of it. DYOR.
 
Sutherlandbear said:
Well, maybe they should not have started something that they could not finish. BTW, apparently their is plenty of Genocide happening in other countries, but we see no mention of it. DYOR.
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The war did not start on October 7. It was started by the Zionists in 1947 (but of course, this will be ignored)

Yes, there are other genocides, such as the one in Sudan, and if you did your research properly, you would see that people are also talking out against that one. You also see no mention of it because it does not serve any of the interests of those in charge.
 
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Sutherlandbear said:
Well, maybe they should not have started something that they could not finish. BTW, apparently their is plenty of Genocide happening in other countries, but we see no mention of it. DYOR.
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Now I will not go into who started, because as John Cleese once famously said 'you started you invaded Poland', the debate on who started is very complex & people has many different views on it.
However, genocide is completely different, you are wiping out a whole race, this is what people are protesting about. The high focus on this is clearly one country clearly more powerful & backed by the most powerful military country is why the profile of this genocide is greater than others including the one in Sudan, where the UN has called it the greatest humanity crisis.
You see the sanctions put on Russia, on China on their human rights issues, on Myanmar, there are protests against political prisoners.
 
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Sutherlandbear said:
So, reading the room here, hate Israel= ok, hate Palestine(Hamas)= racist.
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Are you that thick? Who here has once said Hamas are ok? Not a single person. What everyone is objecting to is the flattening of Gaza and the indiscriminate killing of 10s of thousands of people.

I honestly don't understand how you think that's ok irrespective of what happened first.
 
Muz said:
Are you that thick? Who here has once said Hamas are ok? Not a single person. What everyone is objecting to is the flattening of Gaza and the indiscriminate killing of 10s of thousands of people.

I honestly don't understand how you think that's ok irrespective of what happened first.
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What happened first usually sets the trend, irrespective of what you think.

And how many countries have evicted these poor Palestinians.

Hamas control the Palestinians.
 
Sutherlandbear said:
So, reading the room here, hate Israel= ok, hate Palestine(Hamas)= racist.
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You're so disingenuous. Palestine and Hamas are not the same thing. You keep purposely change words or mix words to continue suiting a narrative. Literally all people are saying is stop killing innocent people, especially children, and the right keeps going, "but Hamas Hamas, blah blah"..
Sutherlandbear said:
What happened first usually sets the trend, irrespective of what you think.

And how many countries have evicted these poor Palestinians.

Hamas control the Palestinians.
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You're right. What happens first usually sets the trend. What happened first was the 1947 Nakba and the the then systemic oppression of the Palestinian people for more than 7 decades.

Hamas does not control Palestine, because Palestine has not been allowed a free and fair election in over 2 decades.
 
More footage of people confronting the gunmen. Horrifically two elderly people lost their lives trying to stop him. Amazing people
 
Football us life said:
Does Australia's Jewish population have a safe future or even a future in Australia?

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At Bondi, every Jewish person’s worst nightmare came true. Can we still have a safe future in Australia? | Dean Sherr

Condemning a terrorist attack is easy. We need the condemnation, and the solidarity, but we also need action
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What do they want? There are no practical steps. It appears they pretty much just don't want the government to recognise palestine. That's what they have been angry about.

The reality is a lot of people don't like Israel, and Israelis themselves are the ones who can change that.

Until then, fuckheads will exploit it.
 
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tsf said:
What do they want? There are no practical steps. It appears they pretty much just don't want the government to recognise palestine. That's what they have been angry about.

The reality is a lot of people don't like Israel, and Israelis themselves are the ones who can change that.

Until then, fuckheads will exploit it.
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So you would think that this writer...

Dean Sherr is a Jewish Australian writer and consultant who previously worked as an adviser to Anthony Albanese, as well as federal and state Labor MPs, and with Jewish community organisations
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being around politics politicians and the Jewish community all his life would understand that....

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Antisemitism has increased over the past 26 months. Synagogues, Jewish businesses, homes and vehicles have been defaced and firebombed. Jewish people have been doxed and ostracised from communities. It has been soul crushing and heartbreaking. It has caused anger and distress. It has cast a long and dark shadow over our lives.
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If the Jewish community in Australia want the Australian Government to side with Israel and said Australian Government takes a neutral stance or recognises Palestine against the wants of the Jewish community and the attacks on the Jewish community continue then, I'd say they have no safe future...
 
Football us life said:
So you would think that this writer...



being around politics politicians and the Jewish community all his life would understand that....

However he says...



If the Jewish community in Australia want the Australian Government to side with Israel and said Australian Government takes a neutral stance or recognises Palestine against the wants of the Jewish community and the attacks on the Jewish community continue then, I'd say they have no safe future...
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Most of the known world recognises Palestine.
 
Football us life said:
So you would think that this writer...



being around politics politicians and the Jewish community all his life would understand that....

However he says...



If the Jewish community in Australia want the Australian Government to side with Israel and said Australian Government takes a neutral stance or recognises Palestine against the wants of the Jewish community and the attacks on the Jewish community continue then, I'd say they have no safe future...
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That last sentence sounds like a threat
 
Football us life said:
So you would think that this writer...



being around politics politicians and the Jewish community all his life would understand that....

However he says...



If the Jewish community in Australia want the Australian Government to side with Israel and said Australian Government takes a neutral stance or recognises Palestine against the wants of the Jewish community and the attacks on the Jewish community continue then, I'd say they have no safe future...
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The Australian govt recognises a two state solution though. They recognise both Israel and Palestine, not one over other. Israel being upset at this is clearly an indication that they want the total wipeout of Palestine. Australia is one of Israel's biggest funders and supporters. They also provide aid to Gaza because killing children and innocent people is wrong.

Why does the "Jewish community" insist that there is only one solution, which is total annihilation and destruction?

Also, let's be clear. There are many Jews in Australia who oppose Israel, and want Palestine to be recognised.
 
melbcityguy said:
That last sentence sounds like a threat
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The Australian Government has taken the decision to recognise the State of Palestine. Just like many other countries have done as Robbo rightly points out. This would make Australia sympathetic towards the future of a fully fledged Palestine. But yet the Jewish community in Australia says it still feels unsafe despite Australia's direction in recognising Palestine.

There was a recent attack on a Synagogue in Manchester in England. Two people were killed. The weekend after the attacks there was a pro - Palestinian march through the streets of Manchester. Even though Britain like Australia has recently recognised the State of Palestine.

One of the regular slogans on the march was ‘Globalise the Intifada’ – a clear and unambiguous call for the mass slaughter of Jews to move beyond Israel. From the reports I've read these Pro-Palestinian marchers weren't particularly of a Muslim background either, there was probably few, but the according to those reports the vast majority were white British.
I'd say most people in Britain, like Australia are sympathetic towards Palestinians and their right to exist in their own country or at least their own state. Yet Jews in Britain, like Australia are still being targeted

What happened on Bondi Beach was globalising the Intifada in action, as was the Manchester synagogue attack.
 
zimbos05 said:
Why does the "Jewish community" insist that there is only one solution, which is total annihilation and destruction?
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The writer.of that op-ed in the Australian Guardian I quoted isn't insisting that there is only "one solution" and I'd be pretty confident that being a former Labor staffer and political adviser to Anthony Albanese that he believes in the "Two-State Solution" too..

I'm sure he wouldn't have been given a column in the Guardian if he wasn’t of that opinion.

He's asking ifJewish people have a safe future in Australia??
 
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