AFC east/west split & OFC

[grazorblade]

The east/west split might be on!
Early days, and good luck getting it past FIFA.

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Would love to face both South Korea and Japan every world cup qualification which is more likely if we have an east west split. Also, more matches in oz timezone which probably boosts the values of the socceroos

 

[Quicky]

Would love to face both South Korea and Japan every world cup qualification which is more likely if we have an east west split. Also, more matches in oz timezone which probably boosts the values of the socceroos

Absorb Oceania. What happens with Central Asia?

 

[NicCarBel]

Absorb Oceania. What happens with Central Asia?

This is how I broke it down last year (but does include some of UEFA coming over…)

Post in thread 'AFC east/west split & OFC'

Oct 23, 2024

So in my posts, will be using the following convention:
"New East AFC" will be called the "Pacific Football Confederation"
"New West AFC" will continue to be called the "Asian Football Confederation".

So... solely using the existing sub-confederations - and counting Oceania as it's own sub-confederation, (ASEAN, East Asia, Central Asia, Oceania, South Asia, West Asia), this would be the split:

AFC

Bahrain

Iraq

Jordan

Kuwait

Lebanon

Oman

Palestine

...

• NicCarBel

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[Somebloke]

This has the feel of a strategic leak from the Japanese, a bit of a warning shot, rather than a genuine push to split. “We know what you are up to.”

 

[ossi]

I’d be in favour of- after confirming that the Middle East haven’t bought all the World Cup slots and playing Iran in a WCQ

 

[JS96]

While I hate the drama of West Asia, the facilities and infrastructure are top notch.

Qualifying was done well this time. Smaller groups aren't good. Like UEFA this time round it's short and rushed. I wish Australia drew teams like Malaysia or Mongolia for a change. The Japan Saudi 3 times in a row is really boring.

 

[mkxx]

While I hate the drama of West Asia, the facilities and infrastructure are top notch.

Qualifying was done well this time. Smaller groups aren't good. Like UEFA this time round it's short and rushed. I wish Australia drew teams like Malaysia or Mongolia for a change. The Japan Saudi 3 times in a row is

While I hate the drama of West Asia, the facilities and infrastructure are top notch.

Qualifying was done well this time. Smaller groups aren't good. Like UEFA this time round it's short and rushed. I wish Australia drew teams like Malaysia or Mongolia for a change. The Japan Saudi 3 times in a row is really boring.

Normally in the first round we played team similar to malaysia Mongolia tho

 

[mkxx]

While I hate the drama of West Asia, the facilities and infrastructure are top notch.

Qualifying was done well this time. Smaller groups aren't good. Like UEFA this time round it's short and rushed. I wish Australia drew teams like Malaysia or Mongolia for a change. The Japan Saudi 3 times in a row is really boring.

Normally in the first round we played teams similar to malaysia Mongolia tho

 

[Alex M]

The Japan Saudi 3 times in a row is really boring.

Actually its four times in a row. It's just that for 2014 we drew Saudi Arabia in round 2 and Japan in round 3.

 

[NicCarBel]

Actually its four times in a row. It's just that for 2014 we drew Saudi Arabia in round 2 and Japan in round 3.

And then that means for Japan, 5 times in a row. 6 if we count the World Cup finals for 2006 too.

 

[HonestSpursFan]

Please make this happen

 

[grazorblade]

wish we could take iran in east asia so we could finally play them in quals

 

[JS96]

Normally in the first round we played teams similar to malaysia Mongolia tho

Yet not those exact teams. Boring teams like Palestine and Lebanon.

 

[JS96]

Actually its four times in a row. It's just that for 2014 we drew Saudi Arabia in round 2 and Japan in round 3.

Fair point. We then had Japan for 2010 also.

 

[JS96]

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[mkxx]

Yet not those exact teams. Boring teams like Palestine and Lebanon.

Used to be in the group with chinese Taipei, Nepal (similar to Mongolia)

In the group with Vietnam, Thailand , Indonesia (similar to Malaysia)

 

[NicCarBel]

So was going to say, the most easiest way to do this split (without taking nations from any other confederations except Oceania) is to go by the sub-confederations that AFC currently have.

If we count Oceania as a new 'sub-confederation' it can effectively be split 3-3 down the middle (West, South and Central stay, with ASEAN, East and Oceania forming the new "Pacific Football Confederation").

The "Pacific Football Confederation" would have the following 31 full FIFA members:

1. Australia
2. Brunei
3. Cambodia
4. Timor-Leste
5. Indonesia
6. Laos
7. Malaysia
8. Myanmar
9. Philippines
10. Singapore
11. Thailand
12. Vietnam
13. China
14. Chinese Taipei
15. North Korea
16. Guam
17. Hong Kong
18. Japan
19. South Korea
20. Mongolia
21. American Samoa
22. Cook Islands
23. Fiji
24. New Caledonia
25. New Zealand
26. Papua New Guinea
27. Samoa
28. Solomon Islands
29. Tahiti
30. Tonga
31. Vanuatu

New Asia would be the following 25:

1. Afghanistan
2. Iran
3. Kyrgyzstan
4. Tajikistan
5. Turkmenistan
6. Uzbekistan
7. Bangladesh
8. Bhutan
9. India
10. Maldives
11. Nepal
12. Pakistan
13. Sri Lanka
14. Bahrain
15. Iraq
16. Jordan
17. Kuwait
18. Lebanon
19. Oman
20. Palestine
21. Qatar
22. Saudi Arabia
23. Syria
24. United Arab Emirates
25. Yemen

In terms of men's World Cup Qualifying, between the two at the moment (Oceania and Asia), they get 9.66 qualifying slots.

 

[JS96]

Used to be in the group with chinese Taipei, Nepal (similar to Mongolia)

In the group with Vietnam, Thailand , Indonesia (similar to Malaysia)

Sure yet we didn't play in Ulaanbaatar or Kuala Lumpur. I don't think we've drawn Turkmenistan yet. We seem to get Oman a lot.

 

[NicCarBel]

So was going to say, the most easiest way to do this split (without taking nations from any other confederations except Oceania) is to go by the sub-confederations that AFC currently have.

If we count Oceania as a new 'sub-confederation' it can effectively be split 3-3 down the middle (West, South and Central stay, with ASEAN, East and Oceania forming the new "Pacific Football Confederation").

The "Pacific Football Confederation" would have the following 31 full FIFA members:

1. Australia
2. Brunei
3. Cambodia
4. Timor-Leste
5. Indonesia
6. Laos
7. Malaysia
8. Myanmar
9. Philippines
10. Singapore
11. Thailand
12. Vietnam
13. China
14. Chinese Taipei
15. North Korea
16. Guam
17. Hong Kong
18. Japan
19. South Korea
20. Mongolia
21. American Samoa
22. Cook Islands
23. Fiji
24. New Caledonia
25. New Zealand
26. Papua New Guinea
27. Samoa
28. Solomon Islands
29. Tahiti
30. Tonga
31. Vanuatu

New Asia would be the following 25:

1. Afghanistan
2. Iran
3. Kyrgyzstan
4. Tajikistan
5. Turkmenistan
6. Uzbekistan
7. Bangladesh
8. Bhutan
9. India
10. Maldives
11. Nepal
12. Pakistan
13. Sri Lanka
14. Bahrain
15. Iraq
16. Jordan
17. Kuwait
18. Lebanon
19. Oman
20. Palestine
21. Qatar
22. Saudi Arabia
23. Syria
24. United Arab Emirates
25. Yemen

In terms of men's World Cup Qualifying, between the two at the moment (Oceania and Asia), they get 9.66 qualifying slots.

Assuming numbers (therefore, Pacific gets 5 slots + 1 playoff, and New Asia gets 4 slots + 1 playoff), and also assuming only 1 round - qualifying groups would probably be something like this

PACIFIC

Pot 1	Pot 2	Pot 3	Pot 4	Pot 5	Pot 6
Japan	Thailand	Philippines	Singapore	Chinese Taipei	Laos
South Korea	Vietnam	Hong Kong	Tahiti	Cambodia	Samoa
Australia	Malaysia	Solomon Islands	Vanuatu	American Samoa	Macau
New Zealand	North Korea	New Caledonia	Myanmar	Brunei	Tonga
China	Indonesia	Fiji	Papua New Guinea	Cook Islands	Timor-Leste
					Guam

NEW ASIA - I've stuffed something up somewhere because I've got 26 instead of the 25 I thought, but oh well - same sorta thing.

Pot 1	Pot 2	Pot 3	Pot 4	Pot 5	Pot 6
Iran	Saudi Arabia	Syria	Kyrgyzstan	Turkmenistan	Nepal
Qatar	Jordan	Bahrain	Lebanon	Yemen	Bangladesh
Uzbekistan	UAE	Palestine	Kuwait	Afghanistan	Mongolia
Iraq	Oman	Tajikistan	India	Maldives	Bhutan
					Sri Lanka
					Pakistan

 

[HappyGuus]

Yeah I did almost the same thing for this (just checked my spreadsheet for this is three years old ). I've spotted that you left out Macau from your Pacific list, and put Mongolia in the New Asia pots.

In the East, I'd like to see something like this. A play-in with the lowest 20 nations, 4 groups of 5, play each other once. I don't want to expose Guam to 30-nil Japan beltings. Top 2 from each group join the top 12 ranked east nations. Then another 4 groups of 5 for the WC Qualifiers, double round-robin. Winner of each group goes to the WC. All four runner-ups can playoff for the rest. And similar thing for the West, albeit with less nations. While groups of 5 means there will be byes, it gives us some friendlies to experiment.