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Asian Champions League 1 and 2 thread

TimmyCole said:
Went to the match.
Thought Melbourne held their own in the first half.
Were defensively very strong, giving Hiroshima few real chances.
Leckie was taken off at half time and thought that made a big difference with Hiroshima able to take control in the
second half. For all the hate Leckie gets for the Socceroos, when I watch him live, I am always super impressed with how much
work he does. So much energy spent closing down opponents, blocking passing lanes. That sort of effort is not readily recorded in
stats but prevented Hiroshima getting any control in the midfield.
Lack of match fitness also likely began to impact Melbourne in the second half.
Once wholesale subs were made for Melbourne, I thought City were right back in it.
Have to comment about one player, Caputo. Not sure what City sees in him but obviously they have a lot of faith.
To me this was another match where he contributed little.
For a centre forward, rarely scores and few assists.
Doesn't win long balls and not great at holding the ball up with his back to defenders.
Also his effort at pressing is infuriating, trots casually around while his team mates are working their asses off.
Think City has an excellent defence and solid midfield but they will struggle to score in the Champions League.
Now if they had a solid CF of the Fornaroli/Berisha type, I think this team could actually go far in the Champions League.
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Went to the game to and fully agree mate. Definitely not sold on Caputo, especially in the role they want him in.

Thought Andreas Kuen and Kanamori were very underwhelming too, experienced visa players that offered no real threat the whole match. Rahmani had moments but clearly needs more senior experience. Mazzeo clearly isn't rated by Aurelio but had a good impact when he came on.

Asking Trewin to really be a sole pivot was strange, not a skilled enough player at that and it forced City to just lumping it to Caputo or back to Beach under enormous pressure. Zane Schriber really improved them when he came on.

Thought City's experienced back four really let them down in possession before they started pushing after the second goal. Apart from maybe Behich they just dodged responsibility on the ball and forced Pat Beach into impossible situations.

City could have gotten at least a point out of this, which isn't a bad effort considering how little match fitness they have.
 
SouthernMariner said:
Went to the game to and fully agree mate. Definitely not sold on Caputo, especially in the role they want him in.

Thought Andreas Kuen and Kanamori were very underwhelming too, experienced visa players that offered no real threat the whole match. Rahmani had moments but clearly needs more senior experience. Mazzeo clearly isn't rated by Aurelio but had a good impact when he came on.

Asking Trewin to really be a sole pivot was strange, not a skilled enough player at that and it forced City to just lumping it to Caputo or back to Beach under enormous pressure. Zane Schriber really improved them when he came on.

Thought City's experienced back four really let them down in possession before they started pushing after the second goal. Apart from maybe Behich they just dodged responsibility on the ball and forced Pat Beach into impossible situations.

City could have gotten at least a point out of this, which isn't a bad effort considering how little match fitness they have.
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It feels like Caputo would do better with a striker to played he had some pretty good hold up play.

Also thought kanamori started well but got worse.

Lastly shillington looks like a breakout player for me
 
Frankly Speaking said:
You seem to have taken a vitriolic dislike to me, and yet I am someone you don't know at all—so much hostility on the basis of absolutely nothing.

Thing you should consider, SB, is whether in the course of your normal day-to-day life, meeting people in person, you would ever take this level of aggression without reason into a public space.

It's all too easy to indulge in this kind of behaviour online - its akin to road rage, with people behaving in obnoxious ways they never normally would because they are in a metal bubble.
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Foxtrot Oscar.
 
Sutherlandbear said:
What do you expect when they haven’t played a proper competitive match in five or so months.

If it is that much of a joke, maybe you should fuck off to a forum where football in Australia is not a joke.
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That doesn't sound like a very professional situation... Didn't they have an Australia Cup game or two recently?
 
rebelliousfeminist974 said:
Don't think it was the second side because they had Aziz Behich start as captain along with Leckie and Atkinson being in the starting XI, but bear in mind that Japan are known for being a powerhouse in continental and international football also.
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Apart from being a considerably superior squad, the J League is also about 80% through their season. That means J-League squads are at their peak right now. Sanfrecce currently 6th on the table but only 4 points off first. According to transfermkt, the Sanfrecce squad is valued nearly 2.5 times what the MC squad is. MC were always going to struggle. People really need to temper their expectations of A-League clubs in the ACL.
 
Sutherlandbear said:
You think 1 Australian cup game against an Amateur team will prepare you for an Asian cup game against a team already in season, would be a good preparation?
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Hahaha ofcourse not mate, but they DID have a 5 month holiday, if they wanted to take this tournament seriously wouldnt they have started pre-season 2-3 months ago and had a bunch of friendly games played by now? Maybe even an overseas camp/pre season trounament to get their eye in?
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
Hahaha ofcourse not mate, but they DID have a 5 month holiday, if they wanted to take this tournament seriously wouldnt they have started pre-season 2-3 months ago and had a bunch of friendly games played by now? Maybe even an overseas camp/pre season trounament to get their eye in?
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The thing with this Asian cups nonsense is that it is costing teams money to play in, hence why it is obviously not taken seriously by Australian clubs. Don’t blame them TBF.
 
biggiemic said:
Your intial post was stupid though.
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Right. And let's consider your post for a moment. What does stupid mean? Really, you mean that you disagreed. So may I suggest that in your post, it is unnecessary to substitute insult for disagreement.
 
Frankly Speaking said:
Right. And let's consider your post for a moment. What does stupid mean? Really, you mean that you disagreed. So may I suggest that in your post, it is unnecessary to substitute insult for disagreement.
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Monoethnic Social Club said:
Hahaha ofcourse not mate, but they DID have a 5 month holiday, if they wanted to take this tournament seriously wouldnt they have started pre-season 2-3 months ago and had a bunch of friendly games played by now? Maybe even an overseas camp/pre season trounament to get their eye in?
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Exactly.
 
Frankly Speaking said:
Right. And let's consider your post for a moment. What does stupid mean? Really, you mean that you disagreed. So may I suggest that in your post, it is unnecessary to substitute insult for disagreement.
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It’s a forum furfuxsake, we are not at work.

If this is not to your liking, you are free to leave anytime you wish.
 
Sutherlandbear said:
The thing with this Asian cups nonsense is that it is costing teams money to play in, hence why it is obviously not taken seriously by Australian clubs. Don’t blame them TBF.
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Sure, but there is some half decent prize money floating around these days.... The main AFC is like $10 mill USD which is nothing to sneeze at

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Sutherlandbear said:
The thing with this Asian cups nonsense is that it is costing teams money to play in, hence why it is obviously not taken seriously by Australian clubs. Don’t blame them TBF.
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Isnt the prize money now big enough? Went up quite a bit
 
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