The Australian Championship 🇦🇺🏆

[grazorblade]

On your point 5, about the EPL hardly beating the AFL for crowds. The EPL has twenty different teams playing in their OWN grounds, not 10 Melbourne teams sharing two massive grounds. Adelaide and Perth are the same. They also have as many home games (19) as the AFL teams have in an entire season.

those would be advantages to drawing crowds. The EPL also is in a country barely bigger than victoria and twice the population of Australia and it still barely beats the AFL. All divisions combined, however smashes the afl even when adjusting for population

 

[LFC]

Mono leave them stew in their own melting pot.

And the relic that you still yearn for.

reactive weak comment - no one quotes as such times have changed my friend wake up from the dark ages please.

 

[LFC]

95% of the crowds the NPL teams get in the FFA Cup are "event goers".

They have no fans bar a couple hundred.

I like Roar playing at Suncorp, they have proven in the past the can get 20k to a game.

Omg - how would you even have a clue when your from WA and you even admitted in a post not knowing east to west Sydney.
Seriously don’t come to a discussion with a fork.
All due respect mate.

 

[Sutherlandbear]

Mono leave them stew in their own melting pot.

reactive weak comment - no one quotes as such times have changed my friend wake up from the dark ages please.

You are a wee bit mixed up. You want your little shitey grounds from a bygone era, i prefer modern day.

 

[LFC]

Fark what is the point comparing EPL ratings.
One thing I’m confident in saying it has rated better than peppa the pig from far far way haha
Seriously lost the plot.

 

[Sutherlandbear]

Fark what is the point comparing EPL ratings.
Seriously lost the plot.

Go pour yourself a strong drink and relax. Not everything is about your point of view.

 

[LFC]

Works both ways my friend.
We’re all entitled our opinions and counter punches.

 

[LFC]

You are a wee bit mixed up. You want your little shitey grounds from a bygone era, i prefer modern day.

Once again gone too far - enjoy crappy get to kogarah and don’t pass go to Leichardt lol

 

[Sutherlandbear]

Works both ways my friend.
We’re all entitled our opinions and counter punches.

Of course, but you are always quick to dismiss, pro A leaguers as having no clue, though.

 

[Sutherlandbear]

Once again gone too far - enjoy crappy get to kogarah and don’t pass go to Leichardt lol

As i often say, " Fuck Leichhardt ".

 

[Glenardo]

As per my post in the NPL thread;

Good crowd in for Marconi v Sydney united in mid week. Makes you wonder what sort of crowd they could have got on a Saturday night or a Sunday.

Unable to attend myself, but maybe some interesting mid week viewing for anyone who’s interested.

 

[LFC]

Of course, but you are always quick to dismiss, pro A leaguers as having no clue, though.

I’ve never said as such whatsoever re no clue.
You’re reading it that way by the look of it.

 

[LFC]

As per my post in the NPL thread;

Good crowd in for Marconi v Sydney united in mid week. Makes you wonder what sort of crowd they could have got on a Saturday night or a Sunday.

Unable to attend myself, but maybe some interesting mid week viewing for anyone who’s interested.

We get more seagulls than the well funded other league by some posters.

 

[HappyGuus]

@HappyGuus - does this work? If it does, I can maybe possibly do a copy/update for when clubs move/change logos/names and etc every year based off that base pyramid. This one is based off 2024 (but I have sort of retrofitted in new clubs/clubs that have joined the senior pyramids for 2025 where possible)

Google Earth

earth.google.com

I think that'll be fine I'll update the site over the next few days. Great stuff mate.

 

[NicCarBel]

I think that'll be fine I'll update the site over the next few days. Great stuff mate.

Awesome - feel free to just use the direct link I guess - it's a live interactive map, so I'm slowly adding in the logos, and re-centering them to the fields. Might try and make it annual thing that keeps track of logos, name changes, pro/rel, etc.

 

[MoorePark]

Nah, I have no familiarity with the Sydney landscape, I just assumed Sydney FC was East Sydney, and Wanderers West Sydney, hence the rivarly.

Probably a hot take but the rivalry only started and got real because of half of the SCC (a section of Sydney FC fans) left to make their own group at WSW which ended up being the RBB.

If that never happened, not sure if there would have been anything like what we have with Macarthur.

 

[Ange's high line]

Preston (makedodia) Lions fans causing problems again. Yep, just about ready for an APL entry..

 

[LFC]

As per my post in the NPL thread;

Good crowd in for Marconi v Sydney united in mid week. Makes you wonder what sort of crowd they could have got on a Saturday night or a Sunday.

Unable to attend myself, but maybe some interesting mid week viewing for anyone who’s interested.

Congrats Glenardo - I expect Berretta will say not surprised how SU's season has gone.

So here we are - BIG derby game a coming - And I pick Spirit to win the other.

Soz all this should be in the NPL thread.

 

[Monoethnic Social Club]

No money = no ability to win silverware, nice try .

Shit make up your mind... so know you are saying that South Melbourne HAS money?

 

[Monoethnic Social Club]

Ok so here are my hot takes, get them while they are spicy

1) Victory crowd averages are incredible, even when taking into account they had monopoly access to Melbourne
2) Franchises tend to decline over time, Adelaide United and SFC seem to be the only exceptions
3) Even after decline a lot of them have pretty impressive crowds given where we are at as a football nation
4) NSL crowd averages were actually fine, especially with a lower participation rate back then and less frequent roos games due to being in asia. Even some powerhouses have comparable crowd averages . Nothing wrong with 3-5k
5) The reality is, the top division in football just isn't a glamour product like other codes. Even the EPL barely beats the AFL in crowd averages
6) where football does better is having a better total community (add up all the crowds in Englands 14 divisions compared to AFL and the difference is more stark) and having the most mature international game
7) An NST has "a point" if it serves the football community and improves our international game
8) An NST serves the football community because, unlike the A league, it is a realistic target for all 2000 clubs if they are ambitious enough. Giving every club the goal of being the best community club in Australia is a goal and so meets the first criteria in point 7
9) An NST gives a modest boost to long term national team performance, about the same as a home and away national youth league, by giving an extra pathway and introducing players earlier (about 60-80 elo points). So it meets the 2nd criteria in point 7
10) it does not need to have any crowds whatsoever to meet criteria 8 and 9
11) Every club that would be able to play on the national stage if there were no minimum requirements, but is not allowed to is a wasted resource. Need to gather every club that can play and let them with no requirements on them whatsoever. Just let them play
12) If the NST is popular enough to get big enough crowds to compete with the A league that is a good problem to have

Not sure who I swung at, but enough spicy takes to make a vindaloo

No mention of where the grandparents of the founders of NST clubs were born, yet still squeezed in a vindaloo reference?? lol the New Dawn wont be happy.....