Matildas friendlies in Western Australia

[RIMB]

How often does England or the US national teams expose their reputation for a friendly?
They build their teams slowly and quietly.
The Matildas are a huge brand in this country and every game exposes them, so results are paramount.

We needed to be introducing our future slowly throughout the last 15 years or so.

We didn't do that - choosing to stick with what had worked even when it was fading, and not providing for any form of succession.

It is too late to go softly softly if we want a team that can do well in 2027.

How much time and patience was Tony Gustafson given? The media and pundits were on his back relentlessly, he took us to the Semi finals at the World Cup but as soon as a less than expected performance at the Olympics was achieved he was rubbish according to the ‘so called’ experts.
I hope Montemurro is given a better chance but somehow I doubt it.

Tony Gustavsson perpetuated the same same game for us.

He got plenty of time to do something and he didn't actually fail at rebuilding and future proofing - he just did not try as far as I am concerned.

I don't care about results if we show progress and promise - same as for the Roar as I have said many times. I would gladly sacrifice our ranking (which we deserve to lose based on our deteriorating play over years) in order to find and build a squad worth carrying into the future.

I know that some will never see the world that way and I am not trying to convince you to change your perspective. Results and rankings are how many judge a team at any level.

Reality to me says we have let our standards drop too far and we deserve to have a lower ranking. As a country though we have much better football in us and we deserve to play that way and go higher in the rankings. One step at a time is fine for me - rebuild with a keen eye and an open mind first then push on closer to where we should be.

As long as Montemurro is given the authority to do what he sees our need to be (and that is no small thing) I believe we will be better for it.

 

[libelous]

We needed to be introducing our future slowly throughout the last 15 years or so.

We didn't do that - choosing to stick with what had worked even when it was fading, and not providing for any form of succession.

It is too late to go softly softly if we want a team that can do well in 2027.


Tony Gustavsson perpetuated the same same game for us.

He got plenty of time to do something and he didn't actually fail at rebuilding and future proofing - he just did not try as far as I am concerned.

I don't care about results if we show progress and promise - same as for the Roar as I have said many times. I would gladly sacrifice our ranking (which we deserve to lose based on our deteriorating play over years) in order to find and build a squad worth carrying into the future.

I know that some will never see the world that way and I am not trying to convince you to change your perspective. Results and rankings are how many judge a team at any level.

Reality to me says we have let our standards drop too far and we deserve to have a lower ranking. As a country though we have much better football in us and we deserve to play that way and go higher in the rankings. One step at a time is fine for me - rebuild with a keen eye and an open mind first then push on closer to where we should be.

As long as Montemurro is given the authority to do what he sees our need to be (and that is no small thing) I believe we will be better for it.

We needed to be introducing our future slowly throughout the last 15 years or so.

We didn't do that - choosing to stick with what had worked even when it was fading, and not providing for any form of succession.

It is too late to go softly softly if we want a team that can do well in 2027.


Tony Gustavsson perpetuated the same same game for us.

He got plenty of time to do something and he didn't actually fail at rebuilding and future proofing - he just did not try as far as I am concerned.

I don't care about results if we show progress and promise - same as for the Roar as I have said many times. I would gladly sacrifice our ranking (which we deserve to lose based on our deteriorating play over years) in order to find and build a squad worth carrying into the future.

I know that some will never see the world that way and I am not trying to convince you to change your perspective. Results and rankings are how many judge a team at any level.

Reality to me says we have let our standards drop too far and we deserve to have a lower ranking. As a country though we have much better football in us and we deserve to play that way and go higher in the rankings. One step at a time is fine for me - rebuild with a keen eye and an open mind first then push on closer to where we should be.

As long as Montemurro is given the authority to do what he sees our need to be (and that is no small thing) I believe we will be better for it.

I don’t think Tony Gustavsson had the authority to experiment, I remember early in his tenure that the had told FA what needed to be done but it was a question of winning at all costs so developing new players was out of the question. Laying the blame at the feet of Gustavsson for the current failures is totally unacceptable.
I doubt Joe Montemurro will have much time to develop a new squad either.

 

[rebelliousfeminist974]

I don’t think Tony Gustavsson had the authority to experiment, I remember early in his tenure that the had told FA what needed to be done but it was a question of winning at all costs so developing new players was out of the question. Laying the blame at the feet of Gustavsson for the current failures is totally unacceptable.
I doubt Joe Montemurro will have much time to develop a new squad either.

After this window Montemurro only has two windows left in October then in November/December before he has to name the Matildas squad for the Women's Asian Cup so there is some time for development of new players but it will still be limited I think.

 

[libelous]

After this window Montemurro only has two windows left in October then in November/December before he has to name the Matildas squad for the Women's Asian Cup so there is some time for development of new players but it will still be limited I think.

Better get ready for the ‘same old same old’ (as some posters call it) as far as the Asian Cup squad is concerned.
Development will have to be done via local camps probably playing against ALW teams.

 

[Muz]

Two more changes for the Matildas. Emily van Egmond replaces Alex Chidiac and earns her 162nd cap. Jacynta Galabadaarachchi on for Emily Gielnik, becoming the second debutant today and in the Montemurro era, as well as Matildas cap number 240.

One of the best names in football.

She was the next big thing years ago and on the cusp of the squad. Had forgotten all about her.

 

[Barca4life]

He may be a good coach at club level but international level is a whole new ball game.

Clearly you don’t rate him then

 

[Muz]

Clearly you don’t rate him then

3 games and libelous wants him gone.

 

[JS96]

Think some might be forgetting how many friendlies Gustavsson had with newbies and losses in order to look at depth and try to get some options going. That's not to say his tactics were working.

 

[libelous]

3 games and libelous wants him gone.

Where did I say that?
My comments are on the reality of the situation. You, amongst others, want him to produce a whole new team for the next Asian Cup and as has been pointed out there are only two international windows left so expecting him blend in a dozen or so players is not going to happen.
Muz , in particular , would rather blame Gustavsson than face reality.

 

[Barca4life]

3 games and libelous wants him gone.

Unbelievable

 

[libelous]

Unbelievable

Exactly.
How anyone can interpret what I said as wanting Montemurro gone IS quite unbelievable!

 

[RIMB]

Exactly.
How anyone can interpret what I said as wanting Montemurro gone IS quite unbelievable!

I would suggest that you strongly disagree with his methods so far and that is all we should read into your comments to date...?

 

[rebelliousfeminist974]

Think some might be forgetting how many friendlies Gustavsson had with newbies and losses in order to look at depth and try to get some options going. That's not to say his tactics were working.

Also bearing in mind that Gustavsson managed to get wins over powerhouse top five sides like European champions England and France pre-World Cup but Montemurro hasn't had the chance to do so against teams of that calibre yet.

 

[libelous]

I would suggest that you strongly disagree with his methods so far and that is all we should read into your comments to date...?

You can suggest whatever you like but if you re read my comments then you will see that I wrote nothing at all like that.

 

[rebelliousfeminist974]

https://www.matildas.com.au/news/mo...w-combinations-part-camps-broader-perspective

Montemurro's addressed the loss to Panama with the journos in the post-match press conference. He says that the tempo at training was intentionally high and players came into the game fatigued, also admitting that the Matildas were not smart enough in dealing with the threats from Panama and their style of play making use of the high press.

 

[RIMB]

You can suggest whatever you like but if you re read my comments then you will see that I wrote nothing at all like that.

So Montemurro trying out a lot of new faces is not something you strongly disagree with?

Now I am genuinely confused. Seemed awfully clear that was what you were saying...?

 

[libelous]

So Montemurro trying out a lot of new faces is not something you strongly disagree with?

Now I am genuinely confused. Seemed awfully clear that was what you were saying...?

If you want to disagree with what I’ve said please quote me, don’t just generalise and say that is what you believe I am saying. Can’t be that hard . Jeez!

 

[libelous]

https://www.matildas.com.au/news/mo...w-combinations-part-camps-broader-perspective

Montemurro's addressed the loss to Panama with the journos in the post-match press conference. He says that the tempo at training was intentionally high and players came into the game fatigued, also admitting that the Matildas were not smart enough in dealing with the threats from Panama and their style of play making use of the high press.

I realise what he is trying to do but will he be afforded the time to implement the plan and to integrate the new players into the Matildas before the Asian Cup given that there are only two fifa windows to expose the new team to the higher intensity needed at that level.
You see, my argument is that many posters on here want to get rid of the old guard ‘post haste’ and I don’t think that is a sensible way of changing things.

 

[zimbos05]

How much time and patience was Tony Gustafson given? The media and pundits were on his back relentlessly, he took us to the Semi finals at the World Cup but as soon as a less than expected performance at the Olympics was achieved he was rubbish according to the ‘so called’ experts.
I hope Montemurro is given a better chance but somehow I doubt it.

Are you serious? Gustavsson was a media lovechild. He got away with so much, especially World Cup time. He should have lost his job after the World Cup, but stayed on and performed so much worse at the Olympics. No coach goes into a World Cup and plays the same 11 virtually every game and do the same with their subs. He was way too predictable and by all accounts, just giving the players more power than was needed. He was too concerned with being their friend, as opposed to their manager. He was rubbish at the Olympics, and it was obvious he was rubbish before that. Getting to the semi at the world cup was a good achievement, but we were lucky to get there.

Thank you for pointing that. For those who say it’s only a friendly so it’s not important every game is important.
The Matildas brand has lifted Football Australia’s bottom line exponentially so to risk compromising that by trying to experiment is just foolish I think.

Montemurro has to experiment because his predecessors didn't. Part of his job is to identify the best players for the squad and he hasn't been given the chance to do that, nor have others been given the chance to cement their spots, or earn a shot at them. Yes the loss is bad, but it points to the problems that many have highlighted for so long, and that's what Joe has to fix. Had these players been integrated better, earlier, would have been a much different outcome. However, what we saw was what happens when you thrust them into a spotlight.

I don’t think Tony Gustavsson had the authority to experiment, I remember early in his tenure that the had told FA what needed to be done but it was a question of winning at all costs so developing new players was out of the question. Laying the blame at the feet of Gustavsson for the current failures is totally unacceptable.
I doubt Joe Montemurro will have much time to develop a new squad either.

I'd like to see where it was said that Gustavsson could not experiment. He experimented in a fair few games and failed miserably in them, that he then resorted to his turgid style of football. He was not really a manager to take us to the next level. It will be interesting to see what he can do with Sweden especially as he is taking over after the Euros, so less pressure. You are right though, not all the blame goes to Gustavsson. The FA takes much of the blame too. They've been very concerned with milking the interest in the Matildas, that they have not really focussed on the football side of things. Montemurro is a good coach, but he will need time and the reigns to do what he does best.

 

[libelous]

Are you serious? Gustavsson was a media lovechild. He got away with so much, especially World Cup time. He should have lost his job after the World Cup, but stayed on and performed so much worse at the Olympics. No coach goes into a World Cup and plays the same 11 virtually every game and do the same with their subs. He was way too predictable and by all accounts, just giving the players more power than was needed. He was too concerned with being their friend, as opposed to their manager. He was rubbish at the Olympics, and it was obvious he was rubbish before that. Getting to the semi at the world cup was a good achievement, but we were lucky to get there.

Montemurro has to experiment because his predecessors didn't. Part of his job is to identify the best players for the squad and he hasn't been given the chance to do that, nor have others been given the chance to cement their spots, or earn a shot at them. Yes the loss is bad, but it points to the problems that many have highlighted for so long, and that's what Joe has to fix. Had these players been integrated better, earlier, would have been a much different outcome. However, what we saw was what happens when you thrust them into a spotlight.

I'd like to see where it was said that Gustavsson could not experiment. He experimented in a fair few games and failed miserably in them, that he then resorted to his turgid style of football. He was not really a manager to take us to the next level. It will be interesting to see what he can do with Sweden especially as he is taking over after the Euros, so less pressure. You are right though, not all the blame goes to Gustavsson. The FA takes much of the blame too. They've been very concerned with milking the interest in the Matildas, that they have not really focussed on the football side of things. Montemurro is a good coach, but he will need time and the reigns to do what he does best.

Like I said ‘it’s all Tony Gustavsson’s fault’, Get real people.