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LFC said:
And people bitch moan and groan about the many that travel OS instead - makes complete sense to me.
Luv our own country travelling around and done so - road trips are dam great but dam been exxxy for years.
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It's the same in the UK with domestic places. While I understand the cost of running a place is expensive, compared to what you get elsewhere makes the overseas trip a no brained for many people.

The issue is the quality of accommodation is comparatively poor. Hotels in Inverness are run down bedsits more expensive than London. I think these places also charge more to filter their clientele and domestic tourism has a decent earning local or foreign guest more willing to fork out so much while also being secluded away from the riff raff. In many cases it also comes across as greed but justified by the scale available when conspired to resort places in Spain and Turkey.

Just different times when past decades had simple accommodation that was affordable for anyone on the road and the cost of running it and the ideas of getting rich of travellers has poisoned domestic tourism.
 
LFC said:
And people bitch moan and groan about the many that travel OS instead - makes complete sense to me.
Luv our own country travelling around and done so - road trips are dam great but dam been exxxy for years.
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Noosa Heads is quite a lovely place but I noticed that many of the restaurants, bars and cafes are getting a little sloppy with their level of service.

For instance there's a nice Italian restaurant called Rococo's where the food is pretty good but they had no Italian wines....

There's one on the menu but they were out of stock.

Okay the Australian ones are pretty good but for an Italian restaurant in Noosa I'd expect them to have some Italian wines.

Another bar there called Bar Capri also very nice, did have a good selection of Italian wines but when I ordered a glass of pinot grigio for the wifie the barman poured a different wine from a different fucken bottle. Barman said he "didn't realise"....

These places aint the cheapest and youd expect a certain level of service....
 
Accused seríal killer. Wtf 😱

What an own goal doing that defamation trial.
 
Football us life said:
Noosa Heads is quite a lovely place but I noticed that many of the restaurants, bars and cafes are getting a little sloppy with their level of service.

For instance there's a nice Italian restaurant called Rococo's where the food is pretty good but they had no Italian wines....

There's one on the menu but they were out of stock.

Okay the Australian ones are pretty good but for an Italian restaurant in Noosa I'd expect them to have some Italian wines.

Another bar there called Bar Capri also very nice, did have a good selection of Italian wines but when I ordered a glass of pinot grigio for the wifie the barman poured a different wine from a different fucken bottle. Barman said he "didn't realise"....

These places aint the cheapest and youd expect a certain level of service....
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ah noosavic - I will hardly venture there anymore in the future - only when I Have to visit some fam who are there.
I know the estabs you mention, yep IF they are falling down of expectations bugger'em, though the typical touristi type wouldn't know the diff or care but pay.
OFF season is the only time I'll venture - too packed and rip off.
 
LFC said:
you wonder how many others have done similar.
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Not just what he did then. But after it.

Bashing women, intimidating people etc.

Lots of soldiers stood up against him at trial. Says it all.

Cunt has ruined lives
 
Power - why some lose the plot and take advantage of their position, all for the wrong.
Good its finally coming to him.
 
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knowing quite a few service officers and retired vets they are fecked up just from dealing with regular war/assigments but having to be in the position of following orders knowing its wrong is complete feck up to deal with.
I feel for these poor souls deeply - we never support them enough in the best of times.
 
tsf said:
he deserves a bullet - no wonder the other soldiers have so may menta issues if he made them do this

www.theguardian.com

Ben Roberts-Smith arrested: former Australian soldier to be charged with five war crime murders in Afghanistan

Roberts-Smith previously failed in his attempt to sue three newspapers which published allegations he murdered unarmed civilians and bullied comrades
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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When you consider the intense bonds of loyalty, camaraderie, and "band of brothers" culture in military life, when other soldiers, often from the same regiment are coming forward then the writing is definitely on the wall....

Loyalty obvious has limits and you'd like to think many soldiers draw the line at actions like murder, torture, or endangering their own side....
 
Football us life said:
When you consider the intense bonds of loyalty, camaraderie, and "band of brothers" culture in military life, when other soldiers, often from the same regiment are coming forward then the writing is definitely on the wall....

Loyalty obvious has limits and you'd like to think many soldiers draw the line at actions like murder, torture, or endangering their own side....
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yep very true - it must really hurt many service men and women having to break their shackles.
There are many that are 110% against this at the same time - feel its modern day media/lawyers amongst other political aspects.
The nature of "you weren't there" when under fire etc is something that many of them say we cannot comprehend.
Sure I get that but the evidence by fellow soldiers is damming full stop.

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This is from a vet sent to the Australian sometime back that was rejected to publish.........

I stand firmly in support of BRS. I served as an infantry soldier in Vietnam, and I understand the reality of war—not the version debated in comfortable rooms, but the one lived under fire.

War isn’t fought according to idealistic rules written after the fact. It’s fought according to the conditions imposed by your opponent. Ignore that reality, and it’s your own people who pay the price.

So who exactly is qualified to pass judgment here? Someone far removed from the battlefield, applying peacetime standards to wartime decisions? If there is to be judgment, it should come from those who truly understand the circumstances—soldiers who have faced enemy fire and made life-and-death decisions in the moment.

And if wrongdoing is established, then accountability shouldn’t stop at the individual level.

Those in command—those who set the conditions, issued the orders, and later accepted honours from afar—should also be prepared to answer for their role.
 
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He is in silverwater.

Be interesting to see if any jihadist types in prison try and issue payback
 
tsf said:
Albanese crackdown on gambling ads - just the 3 allowed on tv per hour for a 14 hour period, so just the 42 tv ads allowed. That'll show them!

FMD what a joke
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Last I heard there was this thing called the internet as well.....:unsure:
 
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LFC said:
yep very true - it must really hurt many service men and women having to break their shackles.
There are many that are 110% against this at the same time - feel its modern day media/lawyers amongst other political aspects.
The nature of "you weren't there" when under fire etc is something that many of them say we cannot comprehend.
Sure I get that but the evidence by fellow soldiers is damming full stop.

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This is from a vet sent to the Australian sometime back that was rejected to publish.........

I stand firmly in support of BRS. I served as an infantry soldier in Vietnam, and I understand the reality of war—not the version debated in comfortable rooms, but the one lived under fire.

War isn’t fought according to idealistic rules written after the fact. It’s fought according to the conditions imposed by your opponent. Ignore that reality, and it’s your own people who pay the price.

So who exactly is qualified to pass judgment here? Someone far removed from the battlefield, applying peacetime standards to wartime decisions? If there is to be judgment, it should come from those who truly understand the circumstances—soldiers who have faced enemy fire and made life-and-death decisions in the moment.

And if wrongdoing is established, then accountability shouldn’t stop at the individual level.

Those in command—those who set the conditions, issued the orders, and later accepted honours from afar—should also be prepared to answer for their role.
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That is true however My Lai for example wasn't exactly what he may call "conditions imposed by your opponent"
 
erogenouszone said:
That is true however My Lai for example wasn't exactly what he may call "conditions imposed by your opponent"
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we can only read what is presented ez, what you read we make judgement thats it.
I'll always ? todays reports and these are even harder to comprehend.
 
tsf said:
He is such a cunt.

This is awesome.

But yeah, evaded law and protected for too long.
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Military tend to try to never publicise these things and sort them out in house. Only when civilian authorities get involved do things happen, I'm surprised it got this far, probably only because someone talked to a journo.
 
I did read somewhere that one or two of Ben Roberts-Smith's military colleagues were a little bit annoyed that he was 'monetising' his VC award..

There was his corporate and consulting roles, where he was primarily leveraging his military leadership experience, Victoria Cross prestige, and public profile for high-performance team building, culture, and strategy in the corporate world.

He had very lucrative public speaking engagements, consultancy work with PwC and of course a senior management role with Channel 7.

Perhaps this aspect of his career had been a bit controversial, with debates around merit-based appointments versus leveraging military heroism etc etc..

Reading between the lines, one or two of the regimental commissioned officers weren’t overly happy that a mere corporal was bringing in so much coin on the back of the VC!!!

One week he's drinking tea with the Queen at Buckingham Palace and the next week he's giving a corporate speech on leadership for $50K for an international accountancy company...
 
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