Australian Dual Nationals 🇦🇺🏳️

[Quicky]

Sort of how I felt.

When Craig Johnston said at 17 years old that playing soccer for Australia was like surfing for England.
I still marveled at his achievements.
It was sort of understood, we were in the dark woods in the 70s & early 80s, but that changed in the late 80s & 90s with the likes of Slater, Kewell, Viduka, Okon, Zelich & the GG.
Now I sort of think yeah bugger them not interested.

Happy to be corrected outside of Christian Vieri, big loss, but was born in Italy & Josip Simunic, what other great players have we lost.

Tony Dorigo and Ante Seric are two that spring to mind.

 

[Quicky]

Excited to see him play for Italy? Pfft if an Aussie chooses another country I never want to hear about them again

Alex has Italian heritage so it's fair enough. I'm sure there are Greek Australians enjoying watching Triantis. I don't see a problem.

 

[Robbos]

Tony Dorigo and Ante Seric are two that spring to mind.

Thanks forgot about Tony Dorigo, but he was in the Craig Johnston era, so again understand him.

 

[Quicky]

Thanks forgot about Tony Dorigo, but he was in the Craig Johnston era, so again understand him.

Joey Didulica, Ersan Gulum, Adrian Segecic, Nectarios Triantis, Jake Brimmer probably Volpato and Arena. It's kicking off this generation.

 

[melbcityguy]

Alex has Italian heritage so it's fair enough. I'm sure there are Greek Australians enjoying watching Triantis. I don't see a problem.

Well other people can do what they want. I can only say myself that I don't care about Aussies who play for other countries

 

[Alex M]

Thanks forgot about Tony Dorigo, but he was in the Craig Johnston era, so again understand him.

Those were the days before international windows and young Australians like these guys were told quite clearly by the clubs that paid their wages that they would not tolerate trips halfway around the world during important parts of the season. If they wanted to play international football as well as have a senior club career they had to play for a European country if eligible or just forget about international football. Some clubs still make it difficult for young players today.

 

[rebelliousfeminist974]

Some clubs still make it difficult for young players today.

The clubs only make it difficult for the young players by not releasing them for major age grade tournaments that fall outside the international windows including the Olympics but to be fair FIFA has given clubs less control over their players through numerous reforms that they've implemented over the years.

 

[Sharkman84]

Arena story could be over before it started

Only time we won world class players was when capping them before their debut (kewell) or before they went overseas (viduka)

Hope the bloke enjoys watching World Cups on tv like the rest of us then.

 

[Robbos]

Joey Didulica, Ersan Gulum, Adrian Segecic, Nectarios Triantis, Jake Brimmer probably Volpato and Arena. It's kicking off this generation.

I don't think we are the only ones who this is happening to or are doing (Boyle, Souttar). I think its quite common world wide now.
With Segecic & Triantis, only time will tell whether these are losses, the others were NOT big losses like Vieri, Simunic, Johnston & Dorigo.

 

[Robbos]

Those were the days before international windows and young Australians like these guys were told quite clearly by the clubs that paid their wages that they would not tolerate trips halfway around the world during important parts of the season. If they wanted to play international football as well as have a senior club career they had to play for a European country if eligible or just forget about international football. Some clubs still make it difficult for young players today.

Yep understood.

 

[Quicky]

Well other people can do what they want. I can only say myself that I don't care about Aussies who play for other countries

I misread your post. I thought you were having a dig at people following players after they've decided to represent another country

 

[Sharkman84]

Tony Dorigo and Ante Seric are two that spring to mind.

Only difference was Tony Dorigo WANTED to play for the Socceroos.

His manager at Aston Villa at the time the now late Tony Barton refused to release him for Socceroo duty believing that playing weaker countries like American Samoa etc wouldn't have benefitted his career.

 

[Alex M]

The clubs only make it difficult for the young players by not releasing them for major age grade tournaments that fall outside the international windows including the Olympics but to be fair FIFA has given clubs less control over their players through numerous reforms that they've implemented over the years.

Some clubs still make it difficult for young players even though they have to release them by dropping them from squads or the starting lineup on their return. Things like this can often be a factor both in National Team selection and for young players with dual Nationality deciding where to commit for national team football. Agree that its easier these days than it was, but it can still be difficult for young guys still making a name for themselves in club and international football.

 

[HonestSpursFan]

If the rumours of him playing for Italy are true, will we have to put him in the World Cup squad? Or do we think we can convince him to switch back post-World Cup?

Overall why hasn’t anyone asked him about this? We’ve asked Cristian Volpato countless times and gotten the same answer yet haven’t asked Antonio Arena once.

 

[Sharkman84]

Ersan chose Turkey over the Socceroos. This is how he sees the World Cup opener playing out

It was an easy decision for Ersan Gulum to pick Turkey over Australia. But picking the winner in the World Cup match between his two countries is a bit harder.

www.smh.com.au

 

[Pasquali]

Ersan chose Turkey over the Socceroos. This is how he sees the World Cup opener playing out

It was an easy decision for Ersan Gulum to pick Turkey over Australia. But picking the winner in the World Cup match between his two countries is a bit harder.

www.smh.com.au

"“I enjoyed watching Australia play … I couldn’t say that before that, I think. Popa’s done an amazing job."

 

[HonestSpursFan]

"“I enjoyed watching Australia play … I couldn’t say that before that, I think. Popa’s done an amazing job."

Unc clearly never watched Angeball or literally any other manager lol.

 

[patjennings]

TBH I loved Ange at Roar - i didn't enjoy 2014 World Cup. Realistically with that group we needed to be more pragmatic. I think he treated the World Cup as a training run for the Asian Cup. 0 points is still 0 points.

 

[Somebloke]

Ersan chose Turkey over the Socceroos. This is how he sees the World Cup opener playing out

It was an easy decision for Ersan Gulum to pick Turkey over Australia. But picking the winner in the World Cup match between his two countries is a bit harder.

www.smh.com.au

I could be wrong but I have a memory that Gulum sat on the bench or got one cap, then was injured for a while and fell out of Turkish national team contention, and then reached out to the FFA and together they tried to get FIFA to allow him to play for Oz. And that news came out a while later. Am I remembering rightly?

 

[verrelli]

I could be wrong but I have a memory that Gulum sat on the bench or got one cap, then was injured for a while and fell out of Turkish national team contention, and then reached out to the FFA and together they tried to get FIFA to allow him to play for Oz. And that news came out a while later. Am I remembering rightly?

He got 7 caps according to Wikipedia which isn't a lot. I wonder if he'd have made the same decision with the benefit of hindsight if he'd known he would only ever get 7 caps.