Women's Asian Cup match discussion thread

[HonestSpursFan]

The Arsenal side that ended up winning UWCL last season had Steph Catley, Caitlin Foord and Kyra Cooney-Cross though.

Yep. Lyon are a stronger side though. The same Arsenal team didn’t beat Chelsea once that season.

 

[HonestSpursFan]

Seriously? He was at Lyon for one season, and lost only 2 games all season. Yes Lyon dominate it, but that does not diminish his reign. If anything, there would have been more pressure on him to perform in that season and win the title.

No doubt not many expected Arsenal to win the comp at the start, but they won it. To lose to the eventual champions is no laughing matter. One could argue that the 2nd leg was bad, but every coach will have losses like that.

Not sure why you are against him so much when his stats and credentials prove that he has earned the right to be the coach. If he fails, I will judge just as hard as anyone, but to be this harshly critical so shortly into his reign is something else.

If he was so good I guess Lyon woulda kept him, right? Instead they got Jonatan Giráldez from Barcelona. Arsenal fans didn’t particularly like him at Arsenal either from what I gather.

I’ve already seen people unable to accept the fact that we made mistakes. Keeping an albeit fan favourite (likely elevated due to her career at Arsenal) in Caitlin Foord on when she wasn’t doing well was not good enough. Unfortunately I don’t think people are willing to accept that.

 

[HonestSpursFan]

Again I know Matildas fever is dead for now, but I’d love to see more people over at Matildas Abroad. Annalise Rasmussen who I woulda picked for the Asian Cup was on the bench for Juventus.

 

[Decentric]

Very good game, but the Matildas weren't good enough.

Not sure if this this is a GG that will be difficult to replace? Other than Kerr and Foord being difficult to replace, other younger payers have improved over this tournament, or continued to develop.

I'm not sure if Kennedy, Catley, Kerr, Foord, Gorry, EVE, Raso ( how old is she?), are impossible to replace?


Kerr will be. Possibly Foord?

Torpey, Heatley, Fowler ( best I've seen her play), Carpenter, C-C, Wheeler, Hunt ( poor by her own standards), are all young enough, or have improved recently, to provide a nucleus of Matildas.

It will be hard for anyone to score the quality of the world class Kerr goals in 2 of the last 3 games though. Foord missed quite a few chances in the final too. Albeit some of her chances were difficult.

Japan are a classy team!

 

[rebelliousfeminist974]

Instead they got Jonatan Giráldez from Barcelona.

Jonatan Giraldez was Washington Spirit head coach before making the move to OL Lyonnes but his track record is still good in terms of winning silverware there and leading them to an NWSL Championship game, in addition to the countless trophies from his previous tenure at Barcelona.

 

[Decentric]

Again I know Matildas fever is dead for now, but I’d love to see more people over at Matildas Abroad. Annalise Rasmussen who I woulda picked for the Asian Cup was on the bench for Juventus.

Love your articles, HSF, but I've hardly been on the forum lately. Bit busy off it.

 

[rebelliousfeminist974]

I'm not sure if Kennedy, Catley, Kerr, Foord, Gorry, EVE, Raso ( how old is she?), are impossible to replace?

Emily van Egmond will be easy to replace with more youthful options in midfield and Hayley Raso at 31 years of age is eventually going to call time on her international career given the injuries she's sustained over the years.

 

[HonestSpursFan]

Love your articles, HSF, but I've hardly been on the forum lately. Bit busy off it.

All good. I understand it’s not everyone’s thing but I still just wanna put it out there. Me and Reb Fem watch all the men’s and women’s club games so we’d love to grow the women’s space as well as the men’s.

 

[Decentric]

Emily van Egmond will be easy to replace with more youthful options in midfield and Hayley Raso at 31 years of age is eventually going to call time on her international career given the injuries she's sustained over the years.

I have never been a huge fan of EVE, but that successive coaches have kept finding roles for her, is testament to some more subtle things she must do well.

I delineated them somewhere else in this thread - I think?

 

[rebelliousfeminist974]

I delineated them somewhere else in this thread - I think?

Those strengths of Emily van Egmond have indeed been delineated in this thread but to be fair she is starting to regress and read the game less well as tactics evolve though.

 

[Decentric]

All good. I understand it’s not everyone’s thing but I still just wanna put it out there. Me and Reb Fem watch all the men’s and women’s club games so we’d love to grow the women’s space as well as the men’s.

Absolutely love what both you and Reb Fem have done for the forum. Particularly for women's football.

Both of you bring so much positive content.

You should have had a lot more thanks and appreciation than you've had to date.

You bring so much useful content and info to G and G. Your articles on Fan View are well written and well researched too.

Fair play to both of you!

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Decentric]

Premature talk of replacing Montemurro.He set up the team well though Kerr was patently not fit to play 90 minutes.His substitutions could have been better.

I think Joe M has been a huge improvement on Tony G.

Like seeing women coaching women. I note Emily Husband is assistant Matildas coach.

Must admit I've been a male who has coached a lot of girls and adult women too. Most coaches agree, but females have a higher level of game sense than men, and are quicker on the uptake.

 

[Luka74]

Very good game, but the Matildas weren't good enough.

Not sure if this this is a GG that will be difficult to replace? Other than Kerr and Foord being difficult to replace, other younger payers have improved over this tournament, or continued to develop.

I'm not sure if Kennedy, Catley, Kerr, Foord, Gorry, EVE, Raso ( how old is she?), are impossible to replace?


Kerr will be. Possibly Foord?

Torpey, Heatley, Fowler ( best I've seen her play), Carpenter, C-C, Wheeler, Hunt ( poor by her own standards), are all young enough, or have improved recently, to provide a nucleus of Matildas.

It will be hard for anyone to score the quality of the world class Kerr goals in 2 of the last 3 games though. Foord missed quite a few chances in the final too. Albeit some of her chances were difficult.

Japan are a classy team!

Kerr will be hard to replace, the rest not so much.

 

[libelous]

I think Joe M has been a huge improvement on Tony G.

Like seeing women coaching women. I note Emily Husband is assistant Matildas coach.

Must admit I've been a male who has coached a lot of girls and adult women too. Most coaches agree, but females have a higher level of game sense than men, and are quicker on the uptake.

Emily Husband is a very astute coach and, in time, will learn a great deal from such an experienced tutor as Joe Montemurro is.
In the two seasons she had at the Mariners she took them from scratch to the top.
Sadly they have regressed under their current leadership.

 

[libelous]

Kerr will be hard to replace, the rest not so much.

They don’t need a total rebuild but the technical management needs to be aware of the numerous untried players that have not yet had the chance to show what they can do.

 

[Luka74]

They don’t need a total rebuild but the technical management needs to be aware of the numerous untried players that have not yet had the chance to show what they can do.

I agree, I think building squad depth should be a priority.

 

[rebelliousfeminist974]

I agree, I think building squad depth should be a priority.

Agree that we should be building squad depth and bringing in youth to eventually replace the Matildas' golden generation when they eventually and inevitably retire as opposed to continuing to call up the old guard and shallowing the national pool over the course of multiple major tournament cycles.

 

[HonestSpursFan]

I have never been a huge fan of EVE, but that successive coaches have kept finding roles for her, is testament to some more subtle things she must do well.

I delineated them somewhere else in this thread - I think?

She’s been coached by her dad before which I’m sure helps lol.

 

[HonestSpursFan]

Absolutely love what both you and Reb Fem have done for the forum. Particularly for women's football.

Both of you bring so much positive content.

You should have had a lot more thanks and appreciation than you've had to date.

You bring so much useful content and info to G and G. Your articles on Fan View are well written and well researched too.

Fair play to both of you!

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you!!

 

[zimbos05]

If he was so good I guess Lyon woulda kept him, right? Instead they got Jonatan Giráldez from Barcelona. Arsenal fans didn’t particularly like him at Arsenal either from what I gather.

I’ve already seen people unable to accept the fact that we made mistakes. Keeping an albeit fan favourite (likely elevated due to her career at Arsenal) in Caitlin Foord on when she wasn’t doing well was not good enough. Unfortunately I don’t think people are willing to accept that.

Lyon didn't keep him because he accepted the Matildas job.

I agree with you that we made some mistakes last night. Foord staying on was a shocker. Managers make mistakes. What you are doing though is judging him on one major performance. His history is one of success. Based on that, he has earned the right to be the Matildas coach. We can admit that he got it wrong last night, however, we know that he was hired not for one tournament, but for a bit more. So we wait and see now for the World Cup and what he can do over an extended period.

The people unable to accept mistakes is a problem beyond Montemurro. It's one that stems from our media and our culture around football. Always the battler who works hard and is valiant in defeat. It's not just with the Matildas, but the Socceroos as well. That's not Joe's fault.

What you are doing by calling him a yes man and having a go at him is completely unjustified and unfair though.