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patjennings said:
I actually thought that was what they were saying. It is an opt in choice. Fulfil the criteria and win promotion you're in and can't be kicked out - in 30-40 years can eventually be ~100 clubs. If your clubs ticks the boxes and wins promotion you are in - at the bottom - with the ability to progress.If you choose not to go in - that is your choice. If you choose to drop out after being in - that is your choice.
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Clubs should still be relegated though.
 
patjennings said:
Well I guess the real incentive is to move up. Why have the Championship? But it really comes back to the club having the choice. They can opt-in or they can opt-out. I suppose past 2034 you can force clubs out but if there is no team to come in (they don't meet minimum standards) then no they will essentially be sitting on a license
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Why have the Championship? - to be the best club in Australia and now, earn a spot in the Round of 32 in Australia Cup which is the ONLY avenue for all clubs to gain a chance to play in Asian Competion.

The incentive to move up the table is great, but the incentive to NOT get relegated in NPL, I feel, is greater... clubs fight tooth and nail those last few months...
 
Rugari is an idiot, the window of no pro/rel in nsl was basically its final decade and it was because soccer australia under david hill wanted to gradually turf out all the ethnic clubs for new franchises. If any clubs that could accept that system its the old guard, and they've proven it for the last 2 decades in the state leagues.
 
southmelb said:
Rugari is an idiot, the window of no pro/rel in nsl was basically its final decade and it was because soccer australia under david hill wanted to gradually turf out all the ethnic clubs for new franchises. If any clubs that could accept that system its the old guard, and they've proven it for the last 2 decades in the state leagues.
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Thats interesting i didnt realize the 2 issues were connected

P and r finishes in 1993 and hill came a couple years later though right?
 
grazorblade said:
Thats interesting i didnt realize the 2 issues were connected

P and r finishes in 1993 and hill came a couple years later though right?
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He came in 1995 i think. Door was firmly closed shut on it once he came in. I dont recall any clubs ever objecting to it. If you look at the way the nsl expanded and who departed from that point onwards it may as well have been Frank Lowy running the show.

Heidelberg managed to sneak back in with its Collingwood merger briefly but that was about it.
 
southmelb said:
He came in 1995 i think. Door was firmly closed shut on it once he came in. I dont recall any clubs ever objecting to it. If you look at the way the nsl expanded and who departed from that point onwards it may as well have been Frank Lowy running the show.

Heidelberg managed to sneak back in with its Collingwood merger briefly but that was about it.
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I guess this was the first season without p and r

1993–94 National Soccer League - Wikipedia

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Would be interesting to know what the discussions that led to that were
 
grazorblade said:
I guess this was the first season without p and r

1993–94 National Soccer League - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org


Would be interesting to know what the discussions that led to that were
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I think there was an impression that more and more traditional clubs were either unable to cope with the increasing professionalism of the NSL or were simply not wanted (Preston and Heidelberg).

The underlying ethos was to expand into the non wog market. The only way was to create clubs out of thin air (Brisbane Strikers, Perth Glory).

Pro/Rel had not offered any stabilty to the NSL.
 
Whilst pro/rel was dumped in 93, Both Brunswick Juve and Heidelberg were thrown out in 95. No ethnic club entered the nsl in its final decade.

Rugari will try claim that the remaining ethnic clubs were happy to have the door shut and be in a closed shop comp. My memory of it was they were just happy to survive the cull.

The only club that fought hard to be reinstated was Heidelberg and they were under the Collingwood banner 2 years later but quickly folded. I dont recall much appetite for then state league clubs to be promoted up for the exception of maybe Preston after they won the 2002 vpl title, but the nsl would die less than 2 years later anyway.

Certainly no wog club campaign to keep the nsl closed.
 
Actually it was more chaotic that i gave it credit for. Along with the 2 Melbourne teams Parramata Eagles were also thrown out. Newcastle withdrew for 1 season and returned the next allongside Canberra Cosmos. Teams constantly coming and going.
 
southmelb said:
He came in 1995 i think. Door was firmly closed shut on it once he came in. I dont recall any clubs ever objecting to it. If you look at the way the nsl expanded and who departed from that point onwards it may as well have been Frank Lowy running the show.

Heidelberg managed to sneak back in with its Collingwood merger briefly but that was about it.
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AND Carlton SC in 97...
 
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