Summer of Cricket thread

[grazorblade]

What? Am I missing something they only play cricket in like 12 countries and only a few really dominate. Football is played everywhere

t20 is becoming popular in a ton of countries and has exploded compared to other forms of cricket and upsets have become more common

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[Decentric]

DC reading TCA is to sell Bellerive and build a new facility. WHY? Bellerive looks a reasonably modern stadium to me and I enjoyed watching live cricket from there when I was in Hobart. Only reason I can think of is to house a larger crowd for Tests uptil the Macquarie Point Stadum is built.

Cricket Tas only owns the stands and buildings. Clarence Council owns the ground/turf. Cricket Tas wants to move to Seven Mile Beach area.

The Mac Point stadium has been a very suspect process. IMO a lot of lies have been told in the astroturfing process for the stadium.

Ostensibly, Shield games will be played at 7MB. BBL played at Mac Point, with the new stadium possibly bankrupting the state.

 

[Decentric]

What? Am I missing something they only play cricket in like 12 countries and only a few really dominate. Football is played everywhere

The CEO and Sec of Tas Cricket were telling a couple of mates and me, all members, that T20 is taking off in the USA and Canada with the Indian diaspora.

As Grazor has said upsets occur. In the last T20 World Cup, Afghanistan knocked Aus out in the semi-final.

Looking at the big Test countries playing cricket they are:
India
Aus
South Africa
England
Pakistan
New Zealand
West Indies
Sri Lanka

Then one adds middle ranking Test countries:
Bangladesh
Zimbabwe
Ireland
Afghanistan

Adding proficient T20 countries:
Scotland
Netherlands ( a lot of South African players have Dutch heritage)
Kenya
Namibia
USA (Indian and West Indies expats)
Canada (Indian and West Indies expats).


There might be more depth in world Basketball, but Cricket is easily the second most popular sport after football. I've researched it a fair bit. The proficient T20 countries ( who don't play Test cricket) are improving fast, and are a threat to anyone.

These 18 countries make up more depth than most other sports, possibly outside basketball and hockey, and of course football, where there is massive and frightening depth. Some cricketers are turning their backs on state and national red ball representation and are chasing T20 in franchises all around the world.

Also, pro cricketers in the powerhouses, who think they have no hope for national selection are making themselves unavailable for selection for the minnows if they have dual citizenship.

They also have T20 World Champs every 2 years. It is the only time I follow the sport.

 

[Decentric]

That is a good sign. His past two seasons have been ravaged by injury.

Was gobsmacked?

Neil-Smith has only just turned 26. I actually think the ACT club cricketers and part-timers were a bit frightened when N-S was sending some thunderbolts down. He had good control and a nice line.

After the gym and the beach got to the game to join the boys at 4pm. Missed a Charlie Wakim well-compiled ton.

Curtain was furious as he walked below us after he got out for 63 off 101 balls. He had a face like thunder. One would think he was out for 0!

Poster boy all rounder, Aiden O'Connor disappointed with 19 off about 60 balls. He is keeping Louis Smith out of the team. The last wicket put on 60 odd ( Elliot and Kallaputho?) so Tas was out for 430 ish compared to ACT's 198.

Very impressed with 35 yo ACT all rounder S Murn, the customs officer. He would only bowl about 110-115 kph, but bowled a superb line and length, getting skid and high bounce off the pitch off a good length. He bowled 21 overs for 30 runs and took 2 or 3 wickets. Murn only has an easy 8-9 pace run up.

ACT leggy, Brunker, or Krunker took a few too. He also took a spectacular catch in the covers to dismiss a furious Curtain for his impressive 63. Hope made 50 too.

 

[Richie]

Am I missing something they only play cricket in like 12 countries

Last count 90 nations played cricket, 12 Test. ICC continues to sit on its arse instead of promoting additional associate members for five day cricket.

 

[Richie]

Curtain was furious as he walked below us after he got out for 63 off 101 balls. He had a face like thunder. One would think he was out for 0!

I expect that from a very promising keeper batsman. Imho is out of Curtain, Ryan Hicks and possibly Alex Lee-Young or Lachlan Aitken for Australia's next long term gloveman.

 

[Richie]

Aiden O'Connor disappointed with 19 off about 60 balls. He is keeping Louis Smith out of the team.

I'll have both of them in my side. Elliot out, back the local talent TCA. Aidan has bulked up somewhat since I last saw him. Louis Smith took three poles, hit 25 in a club T20 this week and snared an outfield catch as good as anything taken in BBL. He must've sprinted 60m , put in a full dive and pouched it in two hands cms from the turf. Stunning is an apt description.

 

[Richie]

Missed a Charlie Wakim well-compiled ton.

Kinda disappointing that he is still putting together scores to interest selectors when it should be a promising middle order youngster doing this.

 

[Richie]

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BBL played at Mac Point with the new stadium possibly bankrupting the state.

...and Tests too as you can bet CA will want a venue where five days of play is undisturbed by the weather. Will the TCA have a stake in the Macquarie Point venue, if so CA will be providing them with a portion of gate takings revenue. Undercover music festivals and other non sports attractions will certainly attract promotors to this exciting hi tech stadium. I am wishing you are wrong about bankrupting the state Jon and instead the Mac Pt stadium will be a future gold mine for Tasmania.

 

[Decentric]

I'll have both of them in my side. Elliot out, back the local talent TCA. Aidan has bulked up somewhat since I last saw him. Louis took three poles, hit 25 in a club T20 this week and snared an outfield catch as good as anything taken in BBL. He must've sprinted 60mts , put in a full dive and pouched it in two hands cms from the turf. Stunning is an apt description.

Elliot has a bit more experience and has bowled some long hard match-winning spells in the Shield. Much better bowler than Smith ATM.

Just before poor light occurred O'Connor and Elliot replaced Hope and Maladon ? ( the curator) bowling pace.

O'C in particular was impressive and snared 1 pole, I think? None of the ACT quick bowlers ( part-timers) have the sort of rhythm of the ultra smooth O'Connor or Neil-Smith. Murn was smooth, but slow in pace.

Then 2 spinners Raf McMillan and Kellaphoo, replaced them. Salow ? scored a nice 39, but had a face like thunder as he walked off below us. Played some good square of the wicket shots, including a few square drives that almost went behind square leg.

ACT in strife though as rain hit at 4.30pm. They have 4 wickets left with another 90 to chase to make Tas bat again.

McMillan snared one with a neat legside catch at bat pad, then nearly got the same dismissal with the next ball. Impressive ACT veteran all rounder S Murn for ACT batted for 18 ish runs, but was in a decent partnership under pressure. I'm sure this guy could have been a first class player?

Turned up at 11 am and the match was rained off. Went to the gym then had lunch with pals at the pub, then returned to find the cricket back on. Just love the TCA ground as a venue!

ACT were 4 -52 at some stage and recovered to be 6 for about 148 at close of play.

Really enjoyed off spin and leg spin from opposite ends!

 

[Decentric]

Hit a watering hole just before the Hurricanes game, a few minutes walk from the ground. Couldn't believe all the HH fans in there who knew nothing about the Shield, Second Eleven games, or any red ball players on the cusp of Test cricket. The notable exception was if they played for a BBL franchise.

 

[Decentric]

Kinda disappointing that he is still putting together scores to interest selectors when it should be a promising middle order youngster doing this.

Wakim is another player who can come into the Shield, play some good knocks, then lose form, or opposing Shield attacks work him out.

I hold out hope for Tom Dwyer as a future opener. He even looks like Ricky Ponting. His pull looks identical.

 

[Decentric]

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...and Tests too as you can bet CA will want a venue where five days of play is undisturbed by the weather. Will the TCA have a stake in the Macquarie Point venue, if so CA will be providing them with a portion of gate takings revenue. Undercover music festivals and other non sports attractions will certainly attract promotors to this exciting hi tech stadium. I am wishing you are wrong about bankrupting the state Jon and instead the Mac Pt stadium will be a future gold mine for Tasmania.

Cricket Tas have reluctantly supported the stadium.

There is a list of other stadia that would supposedly attract big music concerts, but have not. There are heaps of stadia in the US, where rich team owners have lobbied to get governments to build taxpayer funded stadia, that they could afford themselves.

It will make no difference to Cricket Aus awarding games to Tas. Hobart is the second driest capital in Aus - and Hobart Airport is even drier than Adelaide, making it drier. A roof isn't needed.

 

[Decentric]

Kinda disappointing that he is still putting together scores to interest selectors when it should be a promising middle order youngster doing this.

Tas has a small pop with 500 000.

NSW has 8 million. There are 16 times more cricketers in NSW. No other state has NSW's depth in quantity of quality. Also, the NSW population is quite centralised in Sydney.

 

[Richie]

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...and Tests too as you can bet CA will want a venue where five days of play is undisturbed by the weather. Will the TCA have a stake in the Macquarie Point venue, if so CA will be providing them with a portion of gate takings revenue. Undercover music festivals and other non sports attractions will certainly attract promotors to this exciting hi tech stadium. I am wishing you are wrong about bankrupting the state Jon and instead the Mac Pt stadium will be a future gold mine for Tasmania.

You disagree DC?

Tas has a small pop with 500 000.

I did allude to this in an earlier post over why CA has dropped a stand alone Tassie from the underage nationals. Small pop equates to a small talent pool.

Actually 2026 pop is closer to 600,000 and estimated to grow by another 100,000 by 2030.

Any idea how many players are currently registered with the TCA or junior cricket organisations?

 

[Richie]

Wakim is another player who can come into the Shield, play some good knocks, then lose form, or opposing Shield attacks work him out.

I hold out hope for Tom Dwyer as a future opener. He even looks like Ricky Ponting. His pull looks identical.

He is one youngster to which I was referring. Is only 18 and already playing Seconds. Gives us some idea of the quality of an emerging Tassie batsman. There is certain to be others and I will endeavor to locate them. Dwyer needs to be on this seasons rookie contract list.

 

[Richie]

Guys name me 15 cricketers from any era who came from the bush and played Tests.

I will kick it off with the legend of legends The Don.

 

[Decentric]

You disagree DC?

I did allude to this in an earlier post over why CA has dropped a stand alone Tassie from the underage nationals. Small pop equates to a small talent pool.

Actually 2026 pop is closer to 600,000 and estimated to grow by another 100,000 by 2030.

Any idea how many players are currently registered with the TCA or junior cricket organisations?

Good question?

I was talking to the right people, but the Second Eleven v ACT game has finished.

Will find out.

 

[Decentric]

He is one youngster to which I was referring. Is only 18 and already playing Seconds. Gives us some idea of the quality of an emerging Tassie batsman. There is certain to be others and I will endeavor to locate them. Dwyer needs to be on this seasons rookie contract list.

Dwyer looked imperious until Murn bowled his nagging medium pacers.

 

[Decentric]

Another former NSW pace bowler who had some decent overs for the Tas 2nd 11 is TCA curator, Maladay. Apparently, he has lived here for 6 years.

With the exodus of NSW cricketers in particular to Tas, there are a lot of quality cricketers based in Hobart.

ACT batter Van Tuin was stranded in the 80s as spinner Kallapotha cleaned up the ACT tail.

Tas won by an innings and 7 runs.