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push to unionize football administration

How soon after he agreed with you was he sacked?

Just asking for a friend... :whistle:

Seriously though - any employee should be covered by fair work practices and unfair dismissal legislation unless they are a genuine casual worker with less than 12 months of tenure. I thought that gave nation wide coverage and protection.

It can't necessarily stop you being sacked for a change of direction but at least it can compensate you for the action if it is unreasonable.

On the teaching side I acknowledge that the work effort is huge both inside and outside the classroom - but I also know that there are a lot of teachers with poor work ethics who accept the higher pay and just recycle their lessons year after year. I grew up with teachers who just wrote on the blackboard for the whole lesson and had us copy it. I never learned much or engaged with their subjects I am afraid.

Having other teachers who put in effort highlighted the difference a good teacher can make - even the ones with the 'wrong' political and social viewpoint for my upbringing and opinions.

With no actual knowledge of you, I do not think you would have been one of those 'lazy' types; so good on you for sticking at it and making a difference.

Football wears out your body and boots.
Teaching wears out your mind and teeth.
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Ha ha!

Asking for a friend!

I met Danny years after his MV termination.

I don't want to derail the thread, RIMB, but if one teaches infants, primary or high school, the job is just too hard for anyone to be slack. The students keep teachers busy and the constant planning ahead of them is exhausting. I think there are a few other teachers on here too - Zimbos and JS96?

A few secondary college teachers, grades 11-12, when I taught there, took it a bit easier and a few were relatively slack compared to the teachers teaching younger students aged 4-15.

I speak from 6 years having worked as a labourer, fencer, clerk, meat packer, miner, welfare worker, musician, kitchen hand, (being useless at most of them) prior to teaching.

Infant teaching aged 4-8 was the hardest job of the lot, although labouring was physically tiring! Gee, it is hard work, then when one feels like resting after school, one has to prepare lessons at night for the next day.

However, infant teaching has been easily the most satisfying. Seeing students improve over the year in reading, maths, spelling, writing, etc, is inherently satisfying. Teachers also have a fair bit of autonomy during the day, but one has little contact with other adults over an entire day! Team teaching is good with another teacher. One can share a joke with anther adult. Often kids say hilarious things and one bursts out laughing, with no other adult to share the humour.

I taught for 25 years permanently and on permanent contract. Then retired and did part-time/casual relief teaching for 13 years - until last year. I've taught ages 4 - 27. Taught young adults at TAFE as well.That was a bit easier.

I never accepted money coaching football, but that was satisfying too - seeing players improve then go on at senior level.

Another occupation that must be tough is nursing. Many former nurses I've taught with have retrained to become teachers, thinking it might be easier. I'd surmise 67% of them think nursing is harder and 33% think teaching is harder - teaching ages 4-12.
 
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Popovic is an inflexible wrecking ball. Really not a fan of his. We fell away quickly after that initial bump in form under him. The drudgery of his football is hard enough work when you're winning.
I might have read you are a MV supporter, Q.

Have you ever watched the MV junior or youth teams train?
 
Should be the Retired Unionist Industry Network ;).

I'm equally biased. Butted heads with unions most of my working career. Funny how the union always supported the individual on the other end of the phone and not the individual on my end. Two employees but I was in an office so my work was always made harder to fix the other's problem even when it was their own fault. But like politics, I would rather not bring it into this forum even though I just did - so no more engagement from me on that score.



Should still be handled with common decency I agree though.

Again - just another steaming pile of my two cents worth.

I'm a staunch unionist, but when I've had good bosses, often manifesting in my teaching years as principals, there was often little need for union action in their tenures.

Good bosses are often proactive in avoiding problems, that poor ones let occur.

It was great having a union in my days as a blue collar worker, when a boss would sometimes shout at you in a bad mood for nothing. When I was 19 I closed down an entire mine in the Pilbara with a boss in a foul mood screaming at me. He was usually a decent bloke, but not on one day.

In a school it could change really quickly in a few weeks when a good principal replaced a dud. Or a dud replaced an effective principal.

Re the MV youth coaching scenario, it was Popa who turned up and cleaned out. To the best of my knowledge, the replacement youth coaching staff appointed by Popa, if they are still the same ones he appointed, haven't produced 'better' or 'more' quantity of quality at MV.

From what I've read, City have produced more quantity of quality through the Melb City academy than MV.

I don't subscribe to the notion that AL junior and youth coaches are necessarily 'managers' either. They are to all intents and purposes, employees.
 
I'm a staunch unionist, but when I've had good bosses, often manifesting in my teaching years as principals, there was often little need for union action in their tenures.

Good bosses are often proactive in avoiding problems, that poor ones let occur.

It was great having a union in my days as a blue collar worker, when a boss would sometimes shout at you in a bad mood for nothing. When I was 19 I closed down an entire mine in the Pilbara with a boss in a foul mood screaming at me. He was usually a decent bloke, but not on one day.

In a school it could change really quickly in a few weeks when a good principal replaced a dud. Or a dud replaced an effective principal.

Re the MV youth coaching scenario, it was Popa who turned up and cleaned out. To the best of my knowledge, the replacement youth coaching staff appointed by Popa, if they are still the same ones he appointed, haven't produced 'better' or 'more' quantity of quality at MV.

From what I've read, City have produced more quantity of quality through the Melb City academy than MV.

I don't subscribe to the notion that AL junior and youth coaches are necessarily 'managers' either. They are to all intents and purposes, employees.
I was a minor for 18 years.

Didn't make a bloody cent and only got what I was given weekly or on birthdays/Christmas.

It's a tough gig.

I once shut down a whole Brisbane intersection by pressing a button!
 
I was a minor for 18 years.

Didn't make a bloody cent and only got what I was given weekly or on birthdays/Christmas.

It's a tough gig.

I once shut down a whole Brisbane intersection by pressing a button!
I heard you where also a myna once and adversely affected the biodiversity of a whole ecosystem.
 
Popovic is an inflexible wrecking ball. Really not a fan of his. We fell away quickly after that initial bump in form under him. The drudgery of his football is hard enough work when you're winning.
Yeah a cleanout of academy staff when u first take a job is brutal in a country like ours where there arent many jobs
 
I heard you where also a myna once and adversely affected the biodiversity of a whole ecosystem.
You bloody generalising racist.

I assume you are talking about the Indian Myna and not the totally fair and reasonable Native Myna which has a key role in our nations ecological systems.

And yet you broad brush us all as "mynas" like that's a bad thing.
 
You bloody generalising racist.

I assume you are talking about the Indian Myna and not the totally fair and reasonable Native Myna which has a key role in our nations ecological systems.

And yet you broad brush us all as "mynas" like that's a bad thing.
There's a disease going around Indian Mynas in FNQ that makes the feathers on their head fall off. You see these little vulture/dinosaur looking creeps stalking around. It's freaky.
 
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